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Re: Item number 3300089600552 (namdra@xxxxxxxx) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 6:18:59 -0700 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 66 rambler for sale To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: "J. w." <sacranoidclub@xxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <8596359.1157635139823.JavaMail.root@web15> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 LINKIE NO WORKIE! -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ---- "J. w." <sacranoidclub@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/clcracers/album?.dir=418cre2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photoshttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/clcracers/album?.dir=418cre2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos > > that is the link for some pics of the car that i am > selling. due to the fact its taking more money then i > though and time which i am out of to finish for the > challange i am getting rid of it and taking something > else tothe challange this year...sigh...it looks like > the delta again.... > > anyway, the car is very good shape and runs and > drives. i have done a tune up to it gotten the lights > working that where out...had no turn signels and brake > lights. had to install a new turn switch, had to rig > something from something else since i could not find > the swiitch. but it will be easy to go back to stock > though. > fixed a bunch of little things with the wiring that > was causing the light issue. have all the pieces that > came out. the couple of things that will need to be > fixed are brakes, and shocks, and a set of tires since > the ones are pretty old it looks like with cracks. > the body is pretty clean and a few dings on the car. > the enine fires right up and runs very good. we fixed > the linkage that was having issues. the trunk is very > solid and very clean. > any other things you want to ask or more pics email me > and i can talk to you about them. > the car is located in round lake beach, ILL and i am > asking $2000 for it. > thanks for your time. > jason walters > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 6:21:34 -0700 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Jeep XJ Speed Control (cruise) For Sale To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <31096965.1157635294757.JavaMail.root@web15> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Any idea of what year this is for? A picture or discription of the controls will tell. -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ---- JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Folks, > > Several years ago I bought a bulk lot of miscellaneous > NOS AMC/Mopar parts. > > One thing is a (supposedly complete) speed control > unit for air bag equipped XJ Jeeps. > > I can provide pictures and a bill of materials, but > the unit appears to be complete and is in the original > Mopar box with Mopar installation instructions. I'll > sell it for $25 plus shipping to any U.S. address. > > I would appreciate it if someone could also post this > to one or more Jeep lists. > > Joe Fulton > Salinas, CA > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:59:39 -0400 From: "Savage, Pete" <PSavage@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Javelin electrical problems To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <BD261180E6D35F4D9D32F3E44FD3D901034607D8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Check your timing as it sounds like it is set with too much advance timing... -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Elle Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:23 AM To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Javelin electrical problems Jonathan SNIP Problem not solved though, as soon it's the same thing where it won't want to restart after driving for a while. Putting a battery booster on when it's acting up makes it fire right up, and I took apart and cleaned up the starter and put in new cables, which leads me to think it's an alternator problem. Then when I'm driving it at night for the first time, I notice the alt light is glowing dimly with the headlights on. SNIP In the for what it is worth department, I have owned my 1970 Javelin since 1979 and my Dad owned It since 1971 and it too had a starter that ran poopy when hot. Right from the get go. Of course the story at the time was that the high compression engine was hard to start when hot thus the starter would of course run poopy. As it was not the only car in the world at the time that did that most every one and myself bought into it. Eventually the starter went and surprise, the replacement did the same thing. Until it went and then whatduyuh know! The next replacement never gave a bit of trouble. I really do not know why so many cars of the time had the same problem unless the starters of the time were one step removed from basic junk. Since then I have gone through the odd starter here and there and have lost them when I did not think that I should (I currently have 3 AMC cars registered plus 2 drivers) but I have never had a starter act like that again. Sorry I can not help you here except give some sympathy but to tell the truth my feeling is the starters are faulty. Continuing on, the Motorola Alternator system has always left the idiot light on glowing dimly at night. Some times more so than others. My 68 Rambler Rebel 290 did it when it was a late model used car and my 70 Javelin still does it and has been doing it as long as I can remember, which is since 1971. Never had a problem keeping the battery charged. Irritating as it might be the system works. Why have I not changed it? The basic reason, it keeps the battery charged and if it ain't broke there is no sense in fixing it. However trouble shooting is easy. Harbor freight sells a $3.00 digital voltmeter on sale. I always buy a couple of them as they make good gifts, I can keep one in every tool kit I own and they work just as well as the $350.00 DVM I also have. To trouble shoot. Key off, motor off. DVM reading of battery equals 12.4 volts DC. Indicates fully charged. Key On Motor running, DVM reading of the battery equals 14.3 Volts DC. Indicates alternator is working. There are few other types of tests that you can do also to indicate a nuance or two, such as read the battery voltage with the key off and then turn on the headlights. The reading should not drop by much, a volt or less is normal. However if the lights do not come on and the batter voltage changes very little that says you have a defective connection on one of the big wires from the battery. (usually) Take them off of the posts and the terminals and the engine block and clean and re-assemble will usually fix things up. If the battery voltage drops considerably down to something less than 8 volts and the lights do not come on that is a good indication that your battery is toast, make it go away. Just keep in mind, if the battery voltage is 12.4 volts with the engine off, the alternator is probably getting the job done. 'Specaily if it reads 14.3 with the engine running. Don't know if this helps any, but been there, done that and managed to live through it. John. _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:26:29 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Javelin electrical problems To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY114-F36176C7D25EC7E26AD2880AC360@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sorry John, but 12.4 volts is partially undercharged. 12.6 volts is fully charged. The trouble I run into with the Ford type starters is the nose bushing wears to one side and causes the armature to come too close to the side, dragging the amps skyhigh. NAPA sells a cheap ammeter that slides over the battery cable for draw testing (it's in the section with test lights in most stores) John wrote: To trouble shoot. Key off, motor off. DVM reading of battery equals 12.4 volts DC. Indicates fully charged. _________________________________________________________________ Search from any web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! http://get.live.com/toolbar/overview ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] The 8000 pound dumbass and a Rolls-Royce To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609071054480.5969@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Michael Bailey wrote: > The 8000 pound remark was, at least I felt at the time, an inspired stroke of sarcasm, based on the power/weight ratio of a 110 hp, 3000 lb. Gremlin. Oh that's how I took it -- your subconscious came up with the right smart-(ass :-) reply just when needed. To me, your "8000 lbs..." remark meant 'bloated, complicated, expensive, fluffy, excess car driven by clueless fool unable to use advantages in said bloat'. And Molly, a spare, clean, simple, well setup car driven by someone who knows the car well and was paying attention (eg. 'clue'). Nice summation in a few words :-) > Not as snappy an answer as I hoped. Throw in modern goodies > like computer-controlled spark, transmission, traction control, > more gears in the auto trans, etc. and there is no excuse > for any modern V8 car to be beaten down by a Gremlin. But isn't this the very essence of many successful pursuits (pun intended)? Show up, use what you've got! Tale of the tortoise and hare, etc... ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:41:45 -0700 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mustang II Front suspension To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <24855366.1157654505041.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Anyone want to see a Mustang II suspension in an America? This one is pretty visisble for a look see. eBay Item: 200023321638 -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:49:59 -0400 From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] promos on ebay for sale To: "AMC LIST" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <003b01c6d20f$35183880$8dc41ecf@Ciampi> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I have a 1968 Javelin model/promo #230025197481 and a 1968 AMX model/promo #230025983605 for auction on ebay if anybody is interested. Jay ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:41:20 -0400 From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Item number: 330008960552 To: <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <E8DF38ACFC17F94998DE284C5CE4582A02202C72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey Eddie, eBay won't let me comment since I'm not a member (thanks, I get enough Spam already...), so I'll correct your errors by e-mail: I can use my Blueberry Mac Pie while I wait for some dude named Tiger to make his roof shot. Your classy '666 [1] AMX sales pitchfork is an AMC classic, but the two muchachos, their Ramble seat and the French spoiler all were -optional-. Check your AMcyclopedia. GM's "Don Quixote" ducktail, as adopted, was standard. Please also note that, if a "Space-Saver" spare wasn't ordered, a "Mini-Me" inflator in a Halloween jelly bean jar pumped you up. An AMC Verne was properly housed beside the bazooka subwoofer with -black-, not orange, side down. Please don't make such errors again: AMC is not a joke. There, that's my mentalitty (or what lil' of its left.) Sic. Hic. Back to the golf tee. After another drink. Yours very tur-, uh, rur-, uh, -trueley-, Thomas Jeffery Charles George George Jefferson Nash Hash Mason Romney Letterman Leno (But call me a Plymouth Rambler* Space Cadet --- or a Chrysler Cordoba Cabriolet cab) PS - Set a more suitable [high tech!] starting bid. http://www.czechmarionettes.org/store/camstore2.htm http://www.gc.iut-amiens.fr/images/Photos_ouvrages/Arche.jpg http://www.gc.iut-amiens.fr/Le_Genie_Civil.htm http://www.freakingnews.com/entries/9000/9283sxAW_w.jpg http://zfacts.com/p/461.html If you make AMC a contender again, it can be the new Mercedesh-Benz. Keep the laffs coming --- and keep the "imposhible" AMC dream alive. http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/O'Toole/impossibledream-lyrics.htm *Cars can be fun and serious. Here's another chance for all to shine. Tell us the story of the real "Rambler" that Chrysler almost produced. Go back before Mopar built the Valiant; back to when the Nash was new. When what grew on the old AMC family tree actually got -noticed- by the American Big-3. Mike/Tom/X should notice the difference between my "serious" and "fun" --- I took the "8,000 pound Chrysler" theme model year still unknown] and simply riffed on it; maybe saying or showing something new or of interest to someone. I don't expect everyone to read between the lines, to find all the factoids, or even to get all the embedded jokes, but, like life itself, it's out there for the taking. Free of charge. The right price for Rambler mentality (and for Rambler mentalitty...) And the right prize in Rambler research? The "Milner Marlin" maybe? Now I'm being serious -and- having fun: there really was such a car. Third chance to contribute something. Go to it; it's your AMC life. Don't rely on someone else to do it for you. Foster Brooks' books may not tell you many more AMC stories. Stude-Packard money might jangle like Jingle Bellsh. Ignore that shentensh: I may've put a put where I shoulda put a Pat. Fore! ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 04:13:26 -0500 From: namdra@xxxxxxxx Subject: [AMC-List] '06 AMC NATIONALS THANKS! To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060907.041327.-16422667.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The following are the sponsors that we have so far for the '06 AMC NATIONALS who have donated cash and/or merchandise. A big thank you to them! GARRET GHEZZI - MEMBER A.J. JACOBS - SOUTH TEXAS AMC - SAN ANTONIO, TX JOHN GARLAND - GARLAND PERFORMANCE - INDEPENDENCE, MO STEVE BRUGGEMAN - MEMBER RON HALLACK - MEMBER GENE BROWN - MEMBER OUTSHINE CUSTOM DETAIL - ANTIOCH, IL EDDIE STAKES - PLANET HOUSTON AMX - HOUSTON, TX ROBERT WIEBLER - MEMBER AUSTIN NETTELER - A&K MACHINE SHOP - DESOTO, MO RICH FLUEGEL - ACCURATE CNC MACHINING - MACHESNEY PARK, IL ED HOOPER - PACIFIC ROPE & TARP CO. - DALLAS, TX We are still hoping to obtain more sponsors for the event and any help would be appreciated. Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!! '06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:06:33 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Item number: 330008960552 To: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <029201c6d2d8$1935e850$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi John, well, on the golf course, having a swill. I hope that golf cart is AMC powered, and you not letting Paris Hilton drive it, let her drive something else! Don't check your AMcyclopedia, check your video library :~O). Speaking of scotch, I hope John is having a scotch, AMC's marketing for the new AMX was just that in 1968. Back to 19 sixty eight..... "Mission AMX: AMC had dealer meetings in 9 cities in the US from Feb 15-22nd 1969 at Playboy clubs; Guy Hadsall Jr the National Merchandising Manager was in charge of the meetings, which was to introduce AMC Dealers to the NEW AMX. The original American Motors flyers states: "the meeting guide poster is guaranteed to turn your audience on! Being in charge of the meeting, you'll have the FIRST opportunity to see it, and get in the proper frame of mind. Very simply instructions on it's use are all that is needed. Simply display it in sight of everyone and happily run-down the swinging new features of the car that are provocatively present in numbered call outs." There was a film and record originally for presentation. Those instructions read (worth noting AMC's great marketing) "Two for the Road: This AMX features film will sustain the stimulating meeting enviroment this meeting guide poster will cause....That's a PROMISE!" and the second film states: "One Of A Kind! This is a fast moving, different type of marketing presentation that should shake some of the cobwebs loose. The film looks closely at the YOUTH MARKET, who they are, where they are, and how to reach them! Now go ahead and take the first look, hang it up and have a swinging meeting! Are you FEELING GROOVY yet? Need a scotch? LETS SELL SOME CARS!!" http://www.planethoustonamx.com/mission_amx.htm Ah yes, the last thing you need is a bunch of drunk AMC dealers on scotch playing with their putters (4 iron?) (Big Bertha?) (Tiger Woodie??!?) looking at Playmates....the tab is covered and all the swill is on the house: http://www.planethoustonamx.com/press_photos/47_nash_drums.JPG back 41 more years to 19 forty seven....... "All the major Nash dealers were crowded into a room, given drums, and told to beat them on cue according to the widow of the owner of the dealership I would later buy out in the 90s, P. K. Williams on Congress street in Austin, Texas. She indicated that she never knew why they rounded up the dealers like this once a year, but spouses were invited, they just could not attend the meetings, not that they would want to be in there with all those drums and Cuban cigars. Not sure if that is a pitcher of ice water on the middle of the table or a pitcher of Stoli. P. K. Williams was one of the highest volume Nash dealers in Texas. He would morph into Rambler then AMC before closing. He is pictured directly below the "H" in the "Sell Nash" banner on the back wall. Ironically, AMC President William V. Luneberg would later say in 1971: "We want to be recognized as a company that marches to the beat of it's own drums;" when he was describing AMCs 'philosophy of difference'. " Fast forward to 2003 when the Green Bay Packers still had a team: http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amc_window_stickers/eddie_packers.jpg Yes, like gas, as with scotch, only the prices have chaged....and aged! "Mike/Tom/X should notice the difference between my "serious" and "fun" --- I took the "8,000 pound Chrysler" theme model year still unknown] and simply riffed on it; maybe saying or showing something new or of interest to someone. I don't expect everyone to read between the lines, to find all the factoids, or even to get all the embedded jokes, but, like life itself, it's out there for the taking. Free of charge. The right price for Rambler mentality (and for Rambler mentalitty...)" On the showfield in Kenosha for the huge Homecoming in 1998 there were 3-4 Dodges that had been produced in Kenosha at the former AMC plant. Looked odd sitting there on a field of over 1000 AMC vehicles. Over the hill on same field there was a few Nashes. And one Ajax. All AMC somehow related, scotch or not. Yes, cars can be fun and serious. Most are fun. I saw a older gentleman driving his pristine 55-57 T Bird, top down this morning. My boys instinctively yelled 'papa! Hot Wheels car!' Not knowing what it is, made before even I was born. Timeless nonetheless. One day some will look back on those 3-4 Mopars (New Yorkers? Dynasties?) on the field almost a decade ago. Did anyone take their photos? Did anyone go over and talk to the owners? Welcome them? Did AMCers act like it was Hezbollah Dodge's over there? I don't know, but I did walk up and check them out. Where are they now? "Third chance to contribute something. Go to it; it's your AMC life. Don't rely on someone else to do it for you." I agree. Not everyone wants a AMC. Not everyone wants to restore/restify/fix/drive a AMC. But for those of us who still do (how many people here drive their AMC daily in 2006? I drive EXCLUSIVELY AMC and have since 1976...) get out and enjoy the products AMC made. It don't have to be a "collectible" musclecar. You will find wagons are just as much fun, as are convertibles as are four doors. All worth having fun with in some fashion! There will be more from the likes of great storytellers like Foster, Brooks, Mayes, maybe even get Zinn out of Amishville to write AMC again. However, everyone has a story to tell when it comes to AMC. How many of you have ever been to a cruise night or car show or just driving your AMC and had someone tell you 'tey remember those Ramblers' or 'I used to have one like that' or 'so and so worked at the dealership/factory/lot' for instance? Tell everyone about it. Fo! Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com Email is currently HEAVY 5-12 day reply times, call if important ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Item number: 330008960552 Hey Eddie, eBay won't let me comment since I'm not a member (thanks, I get enough Spam already...), so I'll correct your errors by e-mail: I can use my Blueberry Mac Pie while I wait for some dude named Tiger to make his roof shot. Your classy '666 [1] AMX sales pitchfork is an AMC classic, but the two muchachos, their Ramble seat and the French spoiler all were -optional-. Check your AMcyclopedia. GM's "Don Quixote" ducktail, as adopted, was standard. Please also note that, if a "Space-Saver" spare wasn't ordered, a "Mini-Me" inflator in a Halloween jelly bean jar pumped you up. An AMC Verne was properly housed beside the bazooka subwoofer with -black-, not orange, side down. Please don't make such errors again: AMC is not a joke. There, that's my mentalitty (or what lil' of its left.) Sic. Hic. Back to the golf tee. After another drink. Yours very tur-, uh, rur-, uh, -trueley-, Thomas Jeffery Charles George George Jefferson Nash Hash Mason Romney Letterman Leno (But call me a Plymouth Rambler* Space Cadet --- or a Chrysler Cordoba Cabriolet cab) PS - Set a more suitable [high tech!] starting bid. http://www.czechmarionettes.org/store/camstore2.htm http://www.gc.iut-amiens.fr/images/Photos_ouvrages/Arche.jpg http://www.gc.iut-amiens.fr/Le_Genie_Civil.htm http://www.freakingnews.com/entries/9000/9283sxAW_w.jpg http://zfacts.com/p/461.html If you make AMC a contender again, it can be the new Mercedesh-Benz. Keep the laffs coming --- and keep the "imposhible" AMC dream alive. http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/O'Toole/impossibledream-lyrics.htm *Cars can be fun and serious. Here's another chance for all to shine. Tell us the story of the real "Rambler" that Chrysler almost produced. Go back before Mopar built the Valiant; back to when the Nash was new. When what grew on the old AMC family tree actually got -noticed- by the American Big-3. Mike/Tom/X should notice the difference between my "serious" and "fun" --- I took the "8,000 pound Chrysler" theme model year still unknown] and simply riffed on it; maybe saying or showing something new or of interest to someone. I don't expect everyone to read between the lines, to find all the factoids, or even to get all the embedded jokes, but, like life itself, it's out there for the taking. Free of charge. The right price for Rambler mentality (and for Rambler mentalitty...) And the right prize in Rambler research? The "Milner Marlin" maybe? Now I'm being serious -and- having fun: there really was such a car. Third chance to contribute something. Go to it; it's your AMC life. Don't rely on someone else to do it for you. Foster Brooks' books may not tell you many more AMC stories. Stude-Packard money might jangle like Jingle Bellsh. Ignore that shentensh: I may've put a put where I shoulda put a Pat. Fore! ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:01:14 -0500 From: namdra@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Item number 3300089600552 To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060907.060114.-16345559.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eddie said: >But for those of us who still do (how many people here drive their AMC daily in 2006? I drive EXCLUSIVELY AMC and have since 1976...) get out and enjoy the products AMC made.> Eddie, my daily drivers & race cars have been AMC's since 1969! Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!! '06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 8, Issue 13 ***************************************