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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Educating... (BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx)
2. Re: typhoon tranny (Andrew Blomer)
3. Re: Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing down. (Arfon)
4. Fw: I have a question on shocks (Eddie Stakes)
5. Re: Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing down. (Mark Price)
6. Re: typhoon tranny (Mark Price)
7. Re: AMX convertible (Larry R Daum)
8. Re: Trannie & the Typhoon Project (Mark Price)
9. Re: Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing down. (Arfon)
10. 1973 2dr Matador 4-Sale (Rus)
11. Re: Educating... (Matt Haas)
12. Re: Front Suspension Rebuild parts (Matt Haas)
13. Fw: I have a question on shocks
(francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
14. Re: Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing down.
(francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:30:10 +0000
From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Educating...
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From: J Johnson <imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx>
> I have an ironic tale to spin about educating about AMC's.. I recently
> met an older fellow with a 64 American 'vert.. He is insistant that
> the 232 engine he has in it is made by Chevy. "That old 190 something
> was a piece of trash, I love that AMC put these chevy 232's in starting
> 1964"... I really dont know how to correct him, or if I should..
> respecting elders and all.... I cringe when I think about him
> spreading this info to others though....
>
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If he can read,give him some literature indicating that the 232 was made by AMC not GM
Bart
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:39:17 +0000
From: "Andrew Blomer" <lotharamc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] typhoon tranny
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I don't know if this is what you need, but I have an old Borg Warner air
cooled out of a 65 Ambo wagon. torq tube of course. It worked really good,
for a time this parts car ran better than my nice one. Almost made me
convert to automatic.
"For what it's worth, I'm still trying to locate the '64 automatic
transmission for my Typhoon project. It's coming along nicely, and am
going to SC to pick up an engine in a week and a half. Joe has offered up a
fuse panel (thank you, Joe), and Mark "The Cripple" (just kidding, Mark) has
some stuff up in WV, which I still plan to drive up for the end of the
month."
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:50:42 -0500
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing
down.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>It really gets the GM crowd teary eyed when they discover that their
>infamous 396's were actually made by AMC.
So, um, do you have production numbers? ;)
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:52:35 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: I have a question on shocks
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Thompson Craig <Craig.Thompson@xxxxxxxxx>
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MessageCraig below has a question on shocks. It seems front shocks for 67-69 are obsolete. I can't find any for my 68 Rebel convertible and he can't find any for his 67 Marlin. So if anyone here has had any luck finding FRONT shocks for either, or something that migth interchange, please reply here and also copy your reply to Craig who would appreciate it. Ironically REAR shocks don't seem to be a problem have found those and I also recently found a set of Max Air Gabriels for my 68 Rebel convertible "
Machine" also.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Thompson Craig Craig.Thompson@xxxxxxxxx
Hi Eddie,
I was wondering if anyone has any kind of an interchange for shock absorbers for AMCs. Specifically, I want to find performance shocks for my 67 Marlin which has a 401, headers etc. I had it to Kenosha in 2002. As you know, front 67 (68-69 too?) shocks are non existent. If you can find a set, they are too soft for the way I have this car set up. It is hard to believe that there aren't other shocks of very similar dimensions/mounting-type that would also fit these cars. I know I can get KYB gasadjust for the rear, but KYB says they never made front shocks.
To explain for example, I happen to know that the rear shocks for the Concord/Hornet are very similar to a 1958 Edsel Citation and also an early 70s Ford Courier truck! But these vehicles are never shown as having the same shocks because the orig. shocks for each vehicle is slightly different from each other. But they do fit. I owned an Edsel in the early 90s and had difficulty finding rear shocks for it. The Concord or Courier truck shocks worked. I am wondering if the same situation might exist for the front shocks of the late 60's big AMCs. Do you know of any alternates? If not, do you know of anyone in the hobby that may have information on this?
If I had my wish, I think I would like a set of KYB's all the way around.
One other question: I also have a 1987 Alliance convertible. I put Gabriel RedRyder shocks (I found on ebay) on it and it rides like a truck. They are gas charged and way to firm for the little Alliance. I would like to find regular hydraulic OEM shocks for this car. Thanks for any help!
Craig Thompson
Rapid City SD
DAKOTA AMC CLUB/AMO Chapter
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 9:44:46 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing
down.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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How could he have production numbers when they are still being produced in a sub-basement of one of the old buildings in Kenosha!
Seriously, it's not just the old guys, When I was in highb school a friend bought a 67 American and went around telling everyone it had a chvy six in it. All his uncles, his dad and I could not convince him otherwise!!! His reasoning was the intake, Exhaust, Valve Cover and dist all resembled Chevrolet and the dist was Delco, therefore it had to be a Chevy engine.
I gave up and found another friend!!!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >It really gets the GM crowd teary eyed when they discover that their
> >infamous 396's were actually made by AMC.
>
> So, um, do you have production numbers? ;)
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 9:46:32 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] typhoon tranny
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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There's yer sign, er TRANS!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Andrew Blomer <lotharamc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't know if this is what you need, but I have an old Borg Warner air
> cooled out of a 65 Ambo wagon. torq tube of course. It worked really good,
> for a time this parts car ran better than my nice one. Almost made me
> convert to automatic.
>
> "For what it's worth, I'm still trying to locate the '64 automatic
> transmission for my Typhoon project. It's coming along nicely, and am
> going to SC to pick up an engine in a week and a half. Joe has offered up a
> fuse panel (thank you, Joe), and Mark "The Cripple" (just kidding, Mark) has
> some stuff up in WV, which I still plan to drive up for the end of the
> month."
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:55:43 -0700
From: Larry R Daum <mramc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMX convertible
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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RE:AMX convertible
Any one got a real good picture of Steve Schall's AMX convertible
they can send me? We are using it for the NAMDRA AMC Nationals
t-shirt for this year and all my photos are in the new house in
Nevada. I'm in Illinois getting the old house ready for auction.
LRDaum mramc@xxxxxxxxxxx Vice-President NAMDRA
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:22:36 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trannie & the Typhoon Project
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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I'm still here. My current 5 lb lift weight restriction limits me to pretty much nothing as far as prep work goes. Monday is another appt. I'm hoping to get some timeline news updates then. I can't get the kids to do anything because they are tied up from now untill school starts.
The 1/4 glass is here and so is the back window. I can probably go ahead and fix you up with drivers door glass. I'd like to keep it, but I don't have mathcing tinted 1/4 glass for the convertible. Windshield I want to old on to for a spare at least till the car is done.
I see a post from someone who has a trans today too!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> For what it's worth, I'm still trying to locate the '64 automatic transmission for my Typhoon project. It's coming along nicely, and am going to SC to pick up an engine in a week and a half. Joe has offered up a fuse panel (thank you, Joe), and Mark "The Cripple" (just kidding, Mark) has some stuff up in WV, which I still plan to drive up for the end of the month.
>
> But, I'm still searching for that elusive automatic trans for Typhoon 1.
>
> Also, I discovered today, the windshield in Typhoon 2 is cracked. Any plans to transfer that to Ty 1 are now scrapped, and puts me back on the hunt for the front/rear windshields, and the drivers side door glasses. Originally, I was going to part Ty 2 out to Ty 1, but can't bring myself to do that to an original Typhoon, as there were so few of them in the first place. Photos of Ty 1 are available, if anyone's interested in seeing how the project is going. I started hanging the suspension today, so it's in the re-assembly stage, in some areas.
>
> Thank you to everyone here who has helped on this project. I can't tell you how much it helps, and how great it is the AMC community does pull together.
>
> Kenny
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:00:53 -0500
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing
down.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I would have loved to see him as he was trying to install a Chevy part onto
that AMC after he went to the car part store and bought a part saying "Oh,
you can't find a AMC listing? Try chevy six, it's what it really is"...
>How could he have production numbers when they are still being produced in
>a sub-basement of one of the old buildings in Kenosha!
> Seriously, it's not just the old guys, When I was in highb school a
> friend bought a 67 American and went around telling everyone it had a
> chvy six in it. All his uncles, his dad and I could not convince him
> otherwise!!! His reasoning was the intake, Exhaust, Valve Cover and dist
> all resembled Chevrolet and the dist was Delco, therefore it had to be a
> Chevy engine.
> I gave up and found another friend!!!
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:27:58 -0500
From: "Rus" <Rus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1973 2dr Matador 4-Sale
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I've been toying around with the idea of selling my ol' Girl for a
while, but I've finally made up my mind.
1973 AMC Matador
2 Door
304 V8, Auto, AC.
$ 4500.00
This is a California Car, just recently moved to Illinois.
Undercarriage is pristine. Car has been garaged for the past 10 years.
Body is straight and rust-free.
This vehicle has never been restored - She has always been well cared
for. I've owned it for 10 years, purchased from my father-in-law who
owned it for over 10 years.
Pictures can be viewed at:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador012.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador011.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador010.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador009.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador008.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador007.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador006.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador005.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador004.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador003.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador002.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/rushasley/Matador001.jpg
I'm in the Northern Chicago Suburbs.
Give me a shout if you're interested.
Thanks,
Rus
rushasley@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:20:02 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Educating...
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I forget where I heard this but I always liked the quote (which I've
probably butchered): Ignorance can be fixed but stupid is terminal.
Matt
At 06:47 AM 8/9/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>I had the same experience a few years ago at a banquet
>dinner for a car club that I belong to. One guy, when
>he found out I collect Ramblers, told me his sister
>had a '65 Classic with a "Chevy 327 in it." I told
>him that it was an AMC engine, looked nothing like a
>Chevy, and he got really huffy about it, even though I
>told him in a nice way!
<snip>
mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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According to a February survey of Internet holdouts released by
UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:31:03 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Front Suspension Rebuild parts
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I'm not knocking Kanter but be aware that they do not all the parts you'll
need to rebuild a trunnion front suspension.
Matt
At 07:39 AM 8/9/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>Well,
>Just got off the phone with the boys from Kanter and ordered two front
>suspension rebuild kits for the two Hornets I am working on. One I need
>now, the second will be used shortly. What with the current price of
>gasoline figured to order them both now before a new round of price
>increases kick in.
>Today for the 1970 and up rebuild kit, $190.00, in 1998 it was $145.00.
>Not being a great fan of polyurethane for a variety of reasons these are
>all rubber. If you are interested check out the web site;
>http://www.kanter.com/
>Look for standard rebuild kits. Typically if listed at all that AMC
>parts are carried you will rarely if ever find a deluxe kit available.
>This is not the first time I have used Kanter for this product and as
>long as I keep getting older it probably will not be the last. After all
>Jock is only 1 year older than I am and look how active and feisty he
>still is!
>For those who are interested the 800 number is;
>1-800-526-1096
>Ask for extension 367 for an AMC friendly Salesman!
>John
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mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
===============================================================
According to a February survey of Internet holdouts released by
UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:13:20 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: I have a question on shocks
To: <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Craig.Thompson@xxxxxxxxx>,
<amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Gabriel has a special order program where they will look up the specs
and make a shock to fit obsolete applications. They use the closest
fitting production shock and customize the ends. Sears Auto Centers can
order them, but any Gabriel outlet should be able to. I got shocks for
the front of my 63 Classic like that, took about six weeks for them to
come in though. They will be radial tuned gas shocks, so if you're
running bias ply tires on a resto the ride will be a bit rougher.
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:19:06 -0000
From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Educating...Or otherwise known as dumbing
down.
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E66079@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Well, as long as he doesn't need electrical or tune-up parts. Those are
Chevy! The water pump would be a problem, but I don't recall if the fuel
pump is close enough to fit or not. I think a Chevy fuel pump body WILL
fit, but the arm is a different shape and won't pump enough fuel, if it
will pump at all. I think someone tried this once, but that was a long
time ago!
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Date: Thursday, August 10, 2006 01:00 PM
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I would have loved to see him as he
was trying to install a Chevy part onto
that AMC after he went to the car part store and bought a part saying
"Oh,
you can't find a AMC listing? Try chevy six, it's what it really is"...
>How could he have production numbers when they are still being produced
in
>a sub-basement of one of the old buildings in Kenosha!
> Seriously, it's not just the old guys, When I was in highb school a
> friend bought a 67 American and went around telling everyone it had a
> chvy six in it. All his uncles, his dad and I could not convince him
> otherwise!!! His reasoning was the intake, Exhaust, Valve Cover and
dist
> all resembled Chevrolet and the dist was Delco, therefore it had to be
a
> Chevy engine.
> I gave up and found another friend!!!
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