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Today's Topics:
1. auto transport (dan whitehead)
2. Re: Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend... (Metro
Detroit electrical rebuilder info) (msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)
3. Re: Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
(BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx)
4. Re: My Tail Light Expense (Mr. AMC)
5. Driver Train Chatter (KENT ANDERSON)
6. Repost of shipping info (Widiker, John D)
7. Re: Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
(msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)
8. 64 Typhoon project (KENT ANDERSON)
9. Aftermarket Wiring Harnesses (Mr. AMC)
10. Halogen Sealed Beam Headlights (Mr. AMC)
11. Re: 64 Typhoon project (Mark Price)
12. Re: Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend... (Mark Price)
13. Re: Driver Train Chatter (Mark Price)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:32:56 +0000
From: "dan whitehead" <freebird_58@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] auto transport
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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A while back there was talk about having a car shipped and the good price
the party got on the shipping. I was wondering who the hauler was and a
contact number if possible.
Thanks all
Dan Whitehead
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:39:20 +0000
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
(Metro Detroit electrical rebuilder info)
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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That depends on where you are on I-75.
They were the first place I thought of, as I used to live in Rochester Hills. Unfortuantely, I live in highland and work in Dearborn.
Mazza Auto in White Lake asked me to check and see if the number on my starter happened to be MDY8101A so he could check for parts. Its already out of the vehicle, so I'll bring it there first. If they can't do anything with it, I guess I'll leave work early one day and trek to Madison.
-Spro
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
> I use Madison Starter and alternator off of Auburn Road in Rochester
> Hills (very easy to get to if you are near I-75)
>
> Madison Starter & Alternator 1727 E Auburn Rd Rochester, MI 48307-5508
> (248) 852-2055
>
> They don't even blink when I bring them weird stuff and are very
> reasonable with pricing. They've done stuff for MG T series cars, tons
> of AMC stuff, 1950's stuff and more for me and I've never been
> disappointed.
>
> ~John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Peter Marano
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:13 AM
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
>
> Someone had installed the Delco starter and cut the pinion snubber
> bracket. I wanted to replace the pinion snubber and since I did not
> have the Prestolite starter but I did have Motorcraft starters...
>
> The gear, gear depth and the diameter of the mounting hole are correct;
> it seems I had to trim the flange and be creative with the mounting
> hardware.
>
> The 327 turned over much faster with the Motorcraft starter.
>
> Peter Marano
> Kenosha WI
>
> >
> >Message: 9
> >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:42:12 +0000
> >From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
> >To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Message-ID:
> >
> ><071120061342.18189.44B3AAB4000192760000470D2200760180019D0A0790019D9F9
> >C03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> >Does that mean you had to do this as a result of not being able to
> obtain a new Jeep starter or rebuild your old one?
> >
> >-Spro
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >From: Peter Marano
> >
> >
> >>>Message: 3
> >>>Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 05:03:16 +0000
> >>>From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
> >>>To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Message-ID:
> >>>
> >>>One question I have is about the starter. It was present (you can see
> it n the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>floor in one pic), but off the motor and seemingly intact. The Seller
> explained
> >>to me that you can't get replacements anymore and it would have to be
> rebuilt.
> >>Any truth to this? If so, can someone recommend a reputable shop,
> preferably in
> >>the Detroit Metro area? If not, I'll ship it out.
> >>
> >>
> >>>-Spro
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>The solenoid on the Delco starter that the cars used interferes with
> the
> >>front axle pinion snubber bracket. I was able to hack a AMC Motorcraft
>
> >>starter to fit my 1968 Gladiator; the mounting hole require
> modification.
> >>
> >>Peter Marano
> >>Kenosha WI
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:43:52 +0000
From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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-------------- Original message --------------
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ...in the form of a 65 Wagoneer. Don't really know if the vehicle is worth
> saving, but I've seen many Waggies from the 80's and 90's that were far worse
> than this. Couldn't beat the "Buy It Now" price and the vehicle was as
> described. Seller also sat on it for a few weeks until I could retrieve it.
> Unfortunately, there was no title. If its not that difficult to resurrect, I
> may go through the trouble of getting a title made.
>
> Details: 3 on the tree, don't happen to know the gears. Light blue interior &
> exterior, bench seats. Breather was present in the cargo area. I'm primarily a
> Jeeper, stick to AMC-powered vehicles, and saw this as a good opportunity to
> learn more about the older motors. Here are some pictures:
>
> http://i23.ebayimg.com/05/i/07/5e/4d/e3_1.JPG
> http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/5b/96/7f_1.JPG
> http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/64/08/a9_1.JPG
> http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/58/30/13_1.JPG
> http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/07/5e/26/68_1.JPG
> http://i21.ebayimg.com/05/i/07/58/38/84_1.JPG
> http://i21.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/58/38/89_1.JPG
> http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/5e/4d/f6_1.JPG
> http://i3.ebayimg.com/05/i/07/64/08/b7_1.JPG
>
> One question I have is about the starter. It was present (you can see it n the
> floor in one pic), but off the motor and seemingly intact. The Seller explained
> to me that you can't get replacements anymore and it would have to be rebuilt.
> Any truth to this? If so, can someone recommend a reputable shop, preferably in
> the Detroit Metro area? If not, I'll ship it out.
>
>
> -Spro
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Nice score.since its in ok shape,I;d lift her up with a reverse springs kit thats if thier Dana 44's front and back and not the crap 35's buy some cheap white spoke rims and used Hummer tires as their dirt cheap if thier available at your local heavy duty tuck tire place.
Bart
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:51:27 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] My Tail Light Expense
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sometimes when you need a part you just have to suck it up and pay the
price. I have had to do it a couple of times on my orange Hornet in the
last 2 1/2 years. Some times hesitating on a part because of price you
loose your chance because there is always the chance another one will
not show up anytime soon. I won a NOS round Hornet bee emblem and chrome
Hornet emblem used on hoods of 73 Hornets For 45$ including shipping,
good luck on my parts but I had a larger amount already bid to offset
being out bid in the last minuet or so. It ternes out I won by 1.00$
over the next bidder. He E-Mailed me seeming upset he lost but said he
was glad it was going to an AMC man, eh say what? What did he think I
was going to do drill a hole in it and attach a chain and wear it around
my neck? I put the bee on my yellow Hornet and sold the chrome Hornet
emblem for 20$. A few weeks later there was just a round NOS bee for
sale on eBay. This one went for 95$ and the same guy I out bid by 1.00$
lost out on this one by 1.00$. I could only imagine what he was calling
me.
"Doc"
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:56:10 -0400
From: "KENT ANDERSON" <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Driver Train Chatter
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Speaking of transmissions, lately, anyone know why my Marlin does a kind of chatter when in reverse? I have to be REAL cautious when backing that car up.
Kenny
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:56:41 -0400
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Repost of shipping info
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
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Automotive shipping post from May:
-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Widiker, John D
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:25 PM
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Hey, I actually won something! Now,car shipping
cost?
Had a 1964 Tempest shipped to me last week, can't say enough nice
things about these guys. Company is Hazen Transport number is 313
292-2120. Drivers name was Bobby. He was more then willing to hang on
while I called the previous owner for a question or two, treated my car
like it was his and was super nice. If I EVER have to ship a car again
I'll be using them and asking for Bobby. Their rate from northeast Texas
was $810, DAS wanted $1250 and said they would be repeatedly loading and
unloading the car, Hazen loaded it once and kept it there till I got it.
(most damage happens during transfers)
~John
-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Justin Shelton
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 5:50 PM
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Hey, I actually won something! Now, car shipping
cost?
Hi, Guys:
For the first time in like forever, I actually WON something, and not on
Ebay. Yesterday, I won a stylin' 1962 VW Notchback, all for the cost of
a $20 raffle ticket. You can see a smallish pic of the car at
www.centralcoastvwclub.com/id237.htm (you have to scroll down) and - yes
- my name in lights!
The car is located in San Mateo, CA, and I'm in SW Michigan. My
question is, car shipping. Has anyone recently had a car shipped 2000
miles? I'm curious if with gas prices higher whether shipping costs
have increased significantly. Also, if you have a particular shipper
you're happy with, let me know! I know this has come up before, but
frankly I've not paid that much attention to the messages. Silly me.
If shipping costs are exhorbitant, I can fly out and drive back. I need
to talk more with the guy who ran the charity raffle, but the only thing
he mentioned was a "grabby" clutch. I have driven a variety of iffy
cars the 1200 miles from Colorado to Michigan, but of course this one is
like twice as far away, and I have no history with it, so I'm a little
hesitant.
- Justin
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:02:01 +0000
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Disclaimer: I am not trying to be a jerk with this reply.
You are completely thinking in the wrong decade. It has a D27 front and what looks like a D53 rear and its really not suitable for wheeling, as the entire drivetrain would have to be replaced for me to have any confidence in it doing anything off the pavement and returning home under its own power. I'd rather break newer, common parts than the older unobtanium. I wouldn't feel comfotable wheeling a heavy rig like that on D44's, even.
I don't know what "35's" you're referring to. Dana 35's? FSJ's never used D35's. They used a D30 front from 71-73.
-Spro
-------------- Original message --------------
From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Nice score.since its in ok shape,I;d lift her up with a reverse springs kit
> thats if thier Dana 44's front and back and not the crap 35's buy some cheap
> white spoke rims and used Hummer tires as their dirt cheap if thier available at
> your local heavy duty tuck tire place.
> Bart
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:13:52 -0400
From: "KENT ANDERSON" <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 64 Typhoon project
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <002201c6a5c5$c9089100$6400a8c0@SONY>
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> ..... you can use all the parts you need from any 63-66 Classic or Ambo
two door hardtop
Thank you, Frank, for reminding me of the exact years those cars were all similar. I wasn't sure if '65 made any radical changes to the parts, or not. I have an offer from Mark, up in WV, and am giving it SERIOUS consideration. It's a pretty long haul from SW Florida to his place, but should be a nice drive.
I've replaced the timing set in Typhoon II, but still not starting. Sure will be a red letter day when I hear that engine fire! After doing some extremely minor body repair on Typhoon II, I'm gettin more and more excited about the prospect of being able to take two of them to the local cruise-ins.
Thank you, to everyone, for your input and help. Total novice here, and every ounce of information is a huge help!
Kenny
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:16:11 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Aftermarket Wiring Harnesses
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <3159-44B5123B-5744@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
I have used products made by Ron Francis Wiring. While not ever using a
complete wiring kit I have used many of their products over the years in
both my cars and find the quality and personal customer service
outstanding.
"Doc"
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:26:01 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Halogen Sealed Beam Headlights
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <3163-44B51489-154@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII
Do the halogen sealed beams draw any more amperage than regular sealed
beams? I don't want to cook the wiring. Also do they become hotter than
regular sealed beams. I have plastic headlight doors in my orange Hornet
and I don't want to melt or warp them. I have never use them so these
questions may seem stupid but I had to ask.
"Doc"
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 8:29:33 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 64 Typhoon project
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <23891426.1152718173448.JavaMail.root@web15>
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So one has to ask, Did the 64 Typhoon have the option of a center armrest in the rear seat back??? I have all the stuff, If I can find it! Sure would make the wife happy to see some of this stuff leave! I have th eheadliner chrom bows too, if the 64 used them. I know they would need shortened and reworked to use in an American.
Anyone in between Morgantown and Florida have a torque tube mount trans for Kenny???? I've offered up my old 69 232 at no cost other then him getting it!
I've got 68 trans and converters, but I don't think I have any bellhousings and I know I don't have any lower shields,or torque tube setups. One trans I have I know slipped some, but still moved the car around. The other was in need of a rebuild when pulled and was kept for parts only.
I should be able to fix him up with most if not all accesory stuff albiet a 81 intake and exhaust is all I have to offer.
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > ..... you can use all the parts you need from any 63-66 Classic or Ambo
> two door hardtop
>
> Thank you, Frank, for reminding me of the exact years those cars were all similar. I wasn't sure if '65 made any radical changes to the parts, or not. I have an offer from Mark, up in WV, and am giving it SERIOUS consideration. It's a pretty long haul from SW Florida to his place, but should be a nice drive.
>
> I've replaced the timing set in Typhoon II, but still not starting. Sure will be a red letter day when I hear that engine fire! After doing some extremely minor body repair on Typhoon II, I'm gettin more and more excited about the prospect of being able to take two of them to the local cruise-ins.
>
> Thank you, to everyone, for your input and help. Total novice here, and every ounce of information is a huge help!
>
> Kenny
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 8:36:59 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend...
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Ole Bart means well, but yes wrong era, Does the rig have the closed knuckle two football field turn radius Then? What the H#!! did they think those things would accomplish? Three point turn? who needs'em, better make it thirty points! :]
Jim Blair can tell you everything you ever wanted to know about the old Jeeps. unless he left it behind while he was moving AGAIN!
OOPS, Now I've went and been not nice to everyone! Geez , Shut my mouth!
No harm intended!
:] LOL
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Disclaimer: I am not trying to be a jerk with this reply.
>
> You are completely thinking in the wrong decade. It has a D27 front and what looks like a D53 rear and its really not suitable for wheeling, as the entire drivetrain would have to be replaced for me to have any confidence in it doing anything off the pavement and returning home under its own power. I'd rather break newer, common parts than the older unobtanium. I wouldn't feel comfotable wheeling a heavy rig like that on D44's, even.
>
> I don't know what "35's" you're referring to. Dana 35's? FSJ's never used D35's. They used a D30 front from 71-73.
>
> -Spro
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Nice score.since its in ok shape,I;d lift her up with a reverse springs kit
> > thats if thier Dana 44's front and back and not the crap 35's buy some cheap
> > white spoke rims and used Hummer tires as their dirt cheap if thier available at
> > your local heavy duty tuck tire place.
> > Bart
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 8:46:13 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Driver Train Chatter
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <3651897.1152719173639.JavaMail.root@web15>
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My first impression would be to stop backing it up or driving it till you have or do the pan and fluid and have the bands adjusted.
I personally would go get my dad and get him to help me as he is 75 next month and rebuilt these for years. I know that band adjustment can be very finicky and years of gunk and road trash can make it something best left to the experts.
Look for an oldtime trans shop or a Volvo dealer or repair shop and tell them its a Borg Warner and you would like to get the bands adjusted and the fluid changed. Volvo used the same basic trans for years. also someone who is comfortable rebuilding FMX trans should be able to do it properly.
I've been leary of band adjustments ever since a friend of mine tried to do one and ended up having the car towed to ahop as it wouldn't move after he did a torque wrench band adjustment! Inch pound torque wrenches don't like dirty threads and it can be a tricky propostion using the shop manual for direction.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- KENT ANDERSON <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Speaking of transmissions, lately, anyone know why my Marlin does a kind of chatter when in reverse? I have to be REAL cautious when backing that car up.
>
> Kenny
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