Could be just old warped memory though. The irony of all this is, with all the road salt the welded system would work a lot better; water wouldn't creep into the stupid clamed joints. ANd the clamp-together stuff would last a hell of a lot longer in CA, with anti-seize, you probably COULD take it apart later! Except for actual restoration, why does anyone mess with those annoying and rare parts? == == Conceptually and perhaps for awhile, problem I encountered is that the welding process destroys the 'coating' and the metal at the weld area rots thru / perforates, before the system is due for replacement. Replaced the entire system 2X on my former 1989 Honda Civic Si before I hit a Deer just get rid of the car. milnersXcoupe NEW YORK _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com