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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Quick ratio steering boxes (Mark Price)
2. Re: center drag link (Mark Price)
3. Re: glovebox [was: 70 232 1bbl cold idle speed] (Sandwich Maker)
4. Re: Desert Trip (Mark Price)
5. Re: all projects on hold (Sandwich Maker)
6. Re: trannie interchange question (Mark Price)
7. ebay amx figures (Eddie Stakes)
8. Re: Quick ratio steering boxes (Tom Jennings)
9. Re: Duraspark parts problem, was Trunnion installation/help
wanted (Tom Jennings)
10. Re: trannie interchange question (Sandwich Maker)
11. Motorola Volt Reg (KENT ANDERSON)
12. Re: all projects on hold (Tom Jennings)
13. Re: glovebox [was: 70 232 1bbl cold idle speed] (Tom Jennings)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:25:21 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Quick ratio steering boxes
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <33470138.1153344321454.JavaMail.root@web23>
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i've got one here. was going to put into the American, but decided against as the fouth bolt is missing and my 73 box is only 3 1/4 turns lock to lock now. i think it will likely go into the Ambassador
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> " From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
> "
> " Well it seems that the Saginaw steering boxes from Jeep Grand Cherokees
> " from 1992 to 1998 had 2.75 turns lock to lock. They use the same bolts
> " and pattern as the old boxes on our stuff.
>
> not only that, they have a relatively stiff 'high feel' t-bar in the
> control valve.
>
> i'm wondering if all jeeps had the fast boxes. my gf's '01 cherokee
> has -very-fast- steering, though i haven't counted turns.
>
> " They have metric fittings, but adapters are available.
>
> you don't need adapters. the fittings sit in inserts or something,
> which are removeable and replaceable with the old fashioned sae
> fittings.
>
> you may run into coupling flange mismatch as iirc gm changed it some
> time in the mid '60s. if your tempest is earlier...
>
> another possible mismatch, though not serious: jeep bump stops are
> usually pretty wide, like amc. you may find yourself cranking into
> the suspension or sheetmetal on the tempest.
>
> " I'm going to go hunt down 2 of them (one for
> " AMX one for Tempest) and see how it goes together, wish me luck. I'll
> " report back if it ends up sucking.
>
> we're all listening!
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay the genius nature
> internet rambler is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:58:01 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] center drag link
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Garry Nordstrom <gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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I might have onr from a 73 hornet, if it is the same. someone let me know.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Garry Nordstrom <gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I need one for 79 AMX, any good sources, putting my 343 in it to run on the
> strip
> Garry
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:58:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] glovebox [was: 70 232 1bbl cold idle speed]
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607192158.k6JLwWD07925@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
"
"
" It took me a month of fiddling to get mine "functional". it's one
" of those most-annoying features... if I adjust it to close OK,
" it rattles constantly (the U-shaped loop in the dash-mounted
" latch). The door when closed stands vertically, encouraging
" rattles. I tried rubber bumpers (slight force door-to-dash) (too
" fussy, and they fell off), absolute perfection in adjustment. I
" finally settled for too-tight; the door requires a bit of a slam,
" but then at least the latch is under a bit of tension and stops
" the rattle.
stick-on bumpers? older ramblers had bumpers that look in profile
like the eject symbol on your kybd and push into holes behind the
door around the glovebox.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:00:50 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Desert Trip
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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still interested in those floors. i was going to start making them till i endovered my mountainbike!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I just got back last night from a 800 mile trip to the
> Nevada desert to pick up a 63 Classic wagon which was
> an Ebay purchase. The seller gave the location as
> "middle of nowhere" and she was right on.
>
> Great scenery and I met some nice folks, believe it or
> not.
>
> The wagon is a 63 Classic 770 with tan bucket seat
> interior and it has the console. It does have the 196
> aluminum block six and auto tranny. I'll be cleaning
> pounds of desert dust and litter out of the interior
> today.
>
> The car is for sale for $750 for the near term before
> I put any money into it. If you want a "car of the
> year" old station wagon that needs no body work, just
> paint, then this is the deal for you. Grille has the
> typical 63 rash, but is not as bad as many. Bumpers
> are rust free but not perfect.
>
> Needs windshield. There is a little rust in the lower
> tailgate.
>
> I also bought a 64 Classic wagon from the same seller
> and am making arrangements to part it out on my way
> back from my Bonneville trip in mid-August. The car
> has had parts scavenged from it and it would be very
> difficult for me to trailer it home (missing rear end
> unit and front spindles). It is red and appears to
> have a great tail gate. I'll be taking the front
> fenders at least, tailgate, interior parts, and some
> engine stuff (196 cast iron) as well as the gas tank.
>
> Joe Fulton
> Salinas, CA
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:06:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] all projects on hold
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx, strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607192206.k6JM6iV08012@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" forgive tha lack of caps and such. on saturday while biking just outside of morganton my sons and i got chased by a pack of dogs and i got bit.
" now for the worse news,
" []
" good things are, i'm not paralyzed and seem to have suffered no nerve damage. i've got good insurance. still not how i planned to get out of working overtime.
yikes!!! that wasn't just a bullet - you dodged a high-caliber
howitzer shell!
" this will make the summer go real slow!
yeah - but think how much worse it'd be if that 'shell' had had your
name on it...
get well soon - but don't rush it.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:12:51 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] trannie interchange question
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
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my thinking is a little fuzzy, but IRRC, the AMC T5 is eactly the same trans for the 4 cyl and six applications! Same in all dimensions and gear ratios! It is only the bell to engine bolt pattern that differs.
Keep in mind this trans was spec'd to AMC by AMC before the other manufacturers realized it's potential.
Highlights of the AMC trans,
unique shifter placement
uses Chryco 904 output
uses Chryco speedo adapter and gears
uses S-10 T5 shifter pattern
uses Ford trans to bell pattern
uses GM trans input bearing retainer diameter
4-1 first gear ratio
.8 overdrive, IIRC?
rated at 245 ftlbs torque.
input shaft is 1 X 1 1/16" 10 spline
.509 pilot tip or is it .590"? GM anywany. Ford is .460"
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Keith
> SNIP
> My question: My neighbor has a 76 Hornet with a three speed manual. I
> have a T5 from a Spirit. Can we make the swap? Are the bolt patterns
> the
> same, etc. etc.
>
> Keith Woodcock
> SNIP
>
> Maybe, yes or no! How's that for being specific.
> If the T5 is from a 4 cylinder Spirit, No!
> However if it is a 4 cylinder Spirit T5 and you have the bell housing,
> you can use that to install a small block Chevy V8 but it would probably
> grenade the transmission.
> If The T5 is from an I-6 and you have the bell housing it is pretty much
> a bolt in on the Hornet. You would have to make a hole in the floor
> board and fabricate a rear transmission mount and deal with the
> speedometer drive. If you do not have the bell housing it is another
> story.
> Option 1, find a sr4, T4 or T5 equipped donor car and use the bell
> housing and anything else that you can unbolt. This of course means that
> you are looking for an I-6 or V8 donor car. No I-4 cars.
> Option 2, maybe you are going to be lucky enough to discover that Hornet
> is using a Multi-bell bell housing which you can then use to bolt up the
> T-5 to the Hornet motor.
> In either case you will need a clutch disc. with the proper number of
> spines on it, a pilot bearing to fit the T5, a properly sized input
> bearing retainer for the multi-bell bell housing application and still
> make a rear transmission mount, deal with the speedometer cable and
> drive shaft issues.
> It is not difficult, it just takes a bit of work.
> John.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:15:31 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] ebay amx figures
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Interesting thread.
http://www.amcforums.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1153222135
Surprised there is a thread about it, figured most would run from it! Here
is a little, ok, not so little story I would like to add. I worked at
Dirty's sports bar from 83-89. It was a mom and pop place, but we did great
business off the Richmond strip here in Houston. The owner, Terry Ward,
liked to customize stuff also. At that time I was in my "ooh, it has to be
concours or you have ruined it stage" and now 30 years later am in my
"George Barris meets Darryl Starbird in Jesse James Monster Garage and they
get drunk on Jagermeister and all have Sawzalls" so more into custominzing
AMC's now, especially for personal tastes. I may add two of the most watched
car shows on TV are Monster Garage and Pimp My Ride. Guess what? Both custom
shows.
The fellow who owned Dirty's had a Volkswagen customized. Called it the
Dirty Bird, of which a photo is on my site under "photo galleries" and "my
amcs".
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/Photo_Gallery_AMC/images/amcpower_jpg.jpg
All the employees were told that this could fly, even though it just looked
WRONG. He put it up on the roof, hoisted it, and the traffic jams it created
at Chimney Rock and Richmond, and the wrecks, are legendary. In the photo
above, my cook sits in the Volksy. Late one night after the place closed,
Victor and me looked 'closer' at the car. The propeller would actully spin,
but you had a foot pedal system to make it spin. The helicopter/jet noise
was a amplifier to a Hoover vacuum cleaner engine in back. Loud as hell and
people honestly thought this thing would vertically leap any second! Hell,
we all did!
The City of Houston has a ordinance on signs. Once on the roof, they could
not figure out if this was a sign or a work of art, what the hell it was,
but wanted to somehow regulate it. So they decided it was a SIGN. He decided
to fight it in court. Smart move. Why? Because of the sheer exposure. Every
night it was on all the local TV stations. People wanted to come out and see
this oddity. You can NOT buy that type of exposure, and he knew it! Our
calender year sales jumped from $350K to $1.1mil that year. We had to hire
more cooks, more wait staff, more bartenders, and many of was were working
doubles, triples, rolling in cash. And the people kept coming.
Speaking of that, the old Billy Blue's music club two blocks down on
Richmond sports a nationally known Volkswagen as part of a saxophone. Never
have heard a discouraging word on either the Dirty Bird or the Volks Sax
from "ANY" of the area huge, Volkswagen chapter either, and for over a year,
they had their local meetings at Dirty's, honored that the Dirty Bird was
getting so much recognition for Volkswagens. Here is the Billy Blues sax:
http://www.agilitynut.com/06/3/sax1.jpg
http://www.agilitynut.com/06/3/sax2.jpg
http://www.agilitynut.com/06/3/sax3.jpg
The point was exposure. And a crapload of it. It worked. So here is some
numbers to toss around I guess.
In the 48 hours my 68 AMX/SSR auction has been up, my ebay hidden counter
has
tallied a STAGGERING 96000 hits. At that rate it will be almost 672,000 hits
by time auction ends.
A hidden counter on my website at planethoustonamx.com has registered a
whopping 7000+ hits in the last 48 hours.
I have gotten 37 phone calls so far, and the best part is from AMCers I have
not talked to in years, one fellow since 93. On that...there is no price tag
you can put on old friendships. It is something I emphasize on a file
somewhere on my site....it is the PEOPLE...not the CARS, that make AMC
special.
3 of the phone calls were simple 'thanks' letting me know that they liked my
site and were able to find their parts from vendors on my list.
2 found cars for sale, one in the 'amc classifieds' and the other off a
older SUAd from 5 months ago.
There are 107 'watchers' of this AMX I have on ebay. All it takes is one to
bid. Hopefully this time they will have money!
Point is this. From years ago, I remember the Dirty Bird, and how much
exposure it got. Whether you agreed or not on whether it was a sign or work
of art, like anything here www.artcars.com
or now whether one agrees it is good or bad (my auction) is of no
concern. Don't whine like old lady in retirement home who wants to
watch Oprah and play bridge, but only on HER terms and certain time.
I am already happy with the results, and that is two AMCs found new
homes and 3 AMCers found parts. Yes, it is a $50 gamble. It's all a gamble,
every time I drive my AMCs in Houston, or drop several $K for a team to
cover a spread! Now if we can just get Las Vegas to have a pro team....
Eddie Stakes
713-464-8825
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Quick ratio steering boxes
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607191531200.3905@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Quick ratio steering boxes
> " They have metric fittings, but adapters are available.
>
> you don't need adapters. the fittings sit in inserts or something,
> which are removeable and replaceable with the old fashioned sae
> fittings.
At least on the older (80's?) boxes, the female fitting in
ther steering box AND the pump unscrew. I swapped metric for
non-metric on the pump, but I did not actually swap the one of
the box.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Duraspark parts problem, was Trunnion
installation/help wanted
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Ken Ames wrote:
> Concerning the section on this page about the TFI upgrade, the 300 Ford 6 is 4.9
> litres, not 3.8.
Thanks, I'll fix that.
> Also, there is an easier upgrade to the Motorcraft ignition that looks more
> stock than the TFI. Ford has a stock looking high-voltage coil that one can use
> insead and it fits the AMC bracket. Add the large cap and wires, etc. and away
> you go.
The big square TFI coil is a very high output coil, and it's
matched to the Duraspark box. IU have no idea how it compares
to the coil your'e talking about, which would be much easier
to install.
I'm having a hell of a time with something I thought would be a
no-brainer -- cap and rotor! The Ford TFI type, for the AMC six.
Caps are expensive! Bought one plus a rotor. Installed (this was
nearly 2 months ago now, I've been really busy), did mild tuneup,
drove off... horrible sputtering and breakup on the highway,
or anything over 2000 - 2500 rpm.
To make a long story short, the rotor tip did not meet the cap
contact! Nearly 1/4" away. The old part (still in there now)
the gap was 1/16" or so. Spark bridged the gap OK (good spark!)
but not enough spark to the plug at high speed. Idled just
fine though.
I carefully measured from the rotor axis center to the tip --
it's far too short. Both cap and reotor same brand, BLUE STREAK.
Brought 'em back to the store, we checked all of stock, all the
same, even the grey one (other brand, name forgotten). All the
same size!
Anyone else have this problem?
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:43:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] trannie interchange question
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607192243.k6JMhZA08678@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" my thinking is a little fuzzy, but IRRC, the AMC T5 is eactly the same trans for the 4 cyl and six applications! Same in all dimensions and gear ratios! It is only the bell to engine bolt pattern that differs.
that sounds right to me. also used in jeeps [incl. some xj] to '86.
" Keep in mind this trans was spec'd to AMC by AMC before the other manufacturers realized it's potential.
" Highlights of the AMC trans,
" unique shifter placement
" uses Chryco 904 output
" uses Chryco speedo adapter and gears
" uses S-10 T5 shifter pattern
" uses Ford trans to bell pattern
" uses GM trans input bearing retainer diameter
" 4-1 first gear ratio
like this?
1352-114 85-86 T-Bird 2.3 T 235ft-lbs 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.81 3.76 6t speedo 7.41 0.59
" .8 overdrive, IIRC?
might be 0.85 or 0.78. trying to recall if 4s and 6s got different
like at gm.
" rated at 245 ftlbs torque.
" input shaft is 1 X 1 1/16" 10 spline
wow. i always thought it was gm 1 1/8 x 10 even though i knew it was
ford -length-.
" .509 pilot tip or is it .590"? GM anywany. Ford is .460"
.590". you must be thinking of toyota because ford is 0.670", except
4-cyl sr4/t4/t5 apps which are... 0.590"! they're also [t5s anyway]
a touch longer, 7.41" vs. 7.18" and have gm retainer dia iirc. afaik
only v8 and v6 t5s have 'traditional' ford dimensions on the retainer
and input shaft.
all vy gd info! going into my permanent file.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:43:36 -0400
From: "KENT ANDERSON" <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Motorola Volt Reg
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000801c6ab84$c5e72350$6400a8c0@SONY>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Would anyone, by any chance, have a real good photo of the Motorola VR12AM18 Voltage Regulator label? I want to reproduce it for my Typhoon project, and need a really good shot of it. I can ALMOST make out all the printing, but not quite.
Thanks,
Kenny
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] all projects on hold
To: markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Mark Price wrote:
> (((a bunch of bad stuff)))
That's really awful, what a nightmare, I'm so sorry for you. I'm
glad it's all healable, at least that's some consolation. And
good insurance, you're lucky! I guess you can catch up on
your reading.
> forgive tha lack of caps and such.
We'll hold off on beating you up for this until later then :-)
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:51:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] glovebox [was: 70 232 1bbl cold idle speed]
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607191546060.3905@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> " rattles. I tried rubber bumpers (slight force door-to-dash) (too
> stick-on bumpers? older ramblers had bumpers that look in profile
> like the eject symbol on your kybd and push into holes behind the
> door around the glovebox.
Ahh, the good ole days, when cars were made of cast iron and
oak trees! Hornet interiors are made out of temporoplastic(*),
and I don't recall any place for those ... what do you call that
design of grommet-style fastening? ... bumpers. I'll look again.
(*) Changes shape over time; once-straight dash lines look
like telegraph wires strung from pole to pole, blowing in a
very slow breeze.
I could take the ENGINE out of my Rambler, and sit it on it's
STEEL dashboard dammit. Do that to the hornet, it would end up
on the floor. Slight exaggeration for illustration purposes only.
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