Which offshore company would that be? Fram is currently a unit of Honeywell, Inc, which merged with AlliedSignal at the end of 1999. Honeywell is an old line American company with global operations, with its headquarters in Morris Township, NJ. The Fram unit is based in Danbury, CT, along with the Prestone brand, which AlliedSignal acquired from Union Carbide in 1985. --Glen >Fram filters used to be good. Since the offshore company has taken them >over, quality went in the toilet. Guess I didn't get that across before. >Take one of your stockpiled PH11s and open it (after you use it) and compare >it to a new one (with the rubber dipped end. Quick way to tell if you have >old stock or the new ^%%##@* one) > > >From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [AMC-List] oil filters >To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx >Message-ID: ><20060705203124.47491.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >you will see all sorts of "tests" by people >bad-mouthing the Frams, and I don't know why. Perhaps >the original tester had a bone to pick with Fram, >maybe a disgruntled employee, I don't know. I do know >that I have been running Fram PH-11 in all my AMCs for >years. I have never lost an engine, either 6 or 8, and >start up chatter is non-existant. Of course I follow >several time tested must-dos; >-change oil and filter every 3k miles. >-use a quality detergent oil. I run basically >Valvoline 10-40 unless conditions call for something >else. >-Extreme use require modofications to your engine, do >so and don't scrimp. >-I flush out my engine with every change using >Risoline and following directions. > I am not against using other brands, and used >Frams even when I was racing my Gremlin. But Fram has >served me well and I have a shelf full of them. Let >the argument begin......Russ > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > >_______________________________________________ >AMC-List mailing list >AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx >http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > >or go to http://www.amc-list.com -- Glen Hoag '75 Pacer 258 (x3) hoag@xxxxxx '76 Pacer 258 (for parts) Limestone County, Alabama '77 Pacer 258 (for kids) '80 Pacer 258 DL wagon '81 Concord DL 258 AMO #7895 AMCPC #471 '82 Spirit 151 _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com