I also hear the wix/dan filketer are excelelnt, but over the last 30 years I have bought different brands depending on where i coudl get them or if the were on sale or what not, inclduing sears 99 cent filters, or purolater or fram. I have never had a failure with any of them, so far knock on wood, and I use the fram also on my newer 1997- 2000-2002-2003 chrysler t and c van, and our rodeo trooper and axiom, with no issues. I also use the ac delco and was not aware they stopped making them. I thought I saw the ph24 or 25 whatever it is at the autozone. never had a 390, but on my javelein and ambo with the 360, I had used the long filter purolator or fram PH11 is it? I bought a bunch of filters form the local deaprtment stores here a few years ago when they wnet out of business. they had both the long and short still ont he shelves- Frams- and for a quarter couldn't resist grabbing them. so far so good. I do make it a habit to fill the filters any time I change the oil on any of the cars. I am sure the too Jiffy lubes do that as well.LOL. Now were you saying that they dont make the longer filter anymore or any filter for the 390?. because I thought they all turned into the shorter ones. In 75 when amc made pacer and had a lower clearance from the filter end to the frame they swithed to the shorter filter on all the amc models and v-8's even going backwards as a substitute as they sold out the supply of longer filters. I thought and never considered an issue with the shorter one if you changed the oil enough- or is there? I still will use my stash of longer purolator/frams on the v8-s on the older v-8's. does the pacer v-8 take a special filter or just the usual 6 cylinder one? I hear it had to change the filter location due to clearnace and is a remote offset.I just pciked it up last week and I should/ will need to change the oil when I get back from vacation and flush it out due to its sitting a year or so. Probalby use the valvoline high mileage stuff- or any other recomendations? 116K miles I think. regards. Oh interesting but the recent vintage 4.2 litre GM Vortec straight six cylinder engine ( used on t-blazer- envoy -asccender, etc) uses the same filter PH3675 as the early to mid 80's amc 4.2 litre 258 6 cylinder- like my 85 eagle. Regards and happy 4th of July, God bless America-n AMC. K. n July 3, 2006 John Elle wrote: > I am afraid this could be one of the arguments that could go on for ever > with no real solutions out of it but, I will agree that WIX Filters are > very good filters and probably on the whole better than Fram. They also > make the Filters used by CarQuest auto stores. > As I do visit the CarQuest store as a matter of preference I usually > will buy my filters there, but I generally buy the bottom line and > change them every 3000 miles. But on the other hand I have a shelf full > of Fram Filters at the present because I found them on sale and as I > maintain an I6 Spirit, an '80 AMX, a Donohue, a '94 Saturn and a 96 > Chrysler T&C + 2 cars under construction and I drive 30,000 miles + a > year and have most of my life I have never had a failure with a Fram > Filter and see no reason why not to run one. > I frankly do not think for a basic street driven engine with no more > worries other than it starts and gets to the grocery store and back that > it really makes much of a difference what filter you run. Just change > oil every 3000 miles or so and call it good to go. > John. ============================================================= Posted by wixList Archiver -- http://www.amxfiles.com/wixlist _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com