" From: Jesse <j2sax@xxxxxxxxx> " " OK, so an Ipod actually doesn't play MP3's... it plays " a proprietary format called MP4 which locks you into " their system. For those who have been captured and " are looking for a way out due to a desire to change " formats there is a software package called "Bad Apple" " that allows for translation. mp4 is not proprietary, it's mp3 with pictures. realplayer and wmp as well as quicktime can play it. tivo uses it. well actually since vid and aud come from separate chips, their files have a soundless mp4 vid stream + a mp3 stream, for computational reasons. there are tools you can run under linux at least that distill the tivo file into a proper mp4 which you can watch on any computer, but they take cpu cycles a tivo doesn't have on-the-fly. there are probably lotsa tools that'll extract the sound data from an mp4 file. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com