" From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> " " " " And yes, GM did use the BW OD on the back of Saginaw transmissions. afaik they were the only ones [in the '60s anyway] to use their own trannies. also, the sag is unusual in modern design in having a separate mainshaft and tailshaft, making it possible for hotrod to swap an o/d from a 3sp sag to a 4sp in a mid-'70s article. " Ford used them also. and that was generally their last usage of light duty warners until the sr4/t4/t5 - '67 mustang 289 t-86+o/d, '71 f100 390 t-89+o/d [which is the last r10 i've found also]. " I'm pretty sure Chrysler did too. i can't recall specifics, but all in all it would be more surprising if they didn't. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com