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Re: Painless Dent Removal (Mr. AMC) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:18:40 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] various scams To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <00f401c6878e$04a2ed10$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Many of you are aware of the different types of scams on internet, this is one of several you see that 'originates' from ebay. There are a mess of them out there like the "$20 Chase Survey" or "Laredo National Bank" or "put-any-credit-union name here" or "update your account" and so forth. All of them are intended for you to click on a link, which is anywhere from Nigeria, Britian, Romania, who knows, but it is a attepmt to steal your info, whether bank account, passwords, log in, user ID all of it. Thwe one below here won't have the official ebay headers and banners. But they sometimes show up, sometimes not, on the email the scammers send you. Some are threatening like "you cashed my chevk where is my item???" or "I'm going to turn you into ebay!" or as in the one below, tells you they have not gotten your paypal payment, like I would want a Chevy. On this one I simply looked at the item number which don't exist. So I didn't bother to even look up the 'seller' and simply forwarded whole mess to spoof@xxxxxxxx and spoof@xxxxxxxxxx since paypal was mentioned, they will then track it and shut it down on the servers end. But you gotta watch some of this stuff, as the scammers are really good and sneaky! ==================================================== Question for item #4645270941 - Chevrolet : Camaro Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Question about Item -- Respond Now eBay sent this message on behalf of an eBay member via My Messages. Responses sent using email will go to the eBay member directly and will include your email address. Click the Respond Now button below to send your response via My Messages. Question from jhonthomas30 jhonthomas30( 30036) Positive Feedback: 100% Member Since: Mar-22-04 Location: KY, United States Registered On: www.ebay.com Item: Chevrolet : Camaro (4645270941) This message was sent while the listing was active. jhonthomas30 is a potential seller. HELLO, THE CAR WILL ARRIVE AT YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN 2 DAYS.WHY I HAVENT RECEIVED THE PAYMENT FROM YOU IN MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT? PLEASE GET BACK TO ME ASAP! Respond to this question in My Messages. Item Details Item name: Chevrolet : Camaro Item number: 4645270941 End date: Jun-06-06 07:07:41 PDT Thank you for using eBay! http://www.ebay.com/ Marketplace Safety Tip Always remember to complete your transactions on eBay - it's the safer way to trade. Is this message an offer to buy your item directly through email without winning the item on eBay? If so, please help make the eBay marketplace safer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay" transactions may be unsafe and are against eBay policy. Learn more about trading safely. Is this email inappropriate? Does it violate eBay policy? Help protect the community by reporting it. Copyright ? 2006 eBay, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of eBay, Inc. eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx *email is currently HEAVY Call if important* www.planethoustonamx.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:28:35 -0700 From: "Ross Guistino" <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] various scams To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: 'Eddie Stakes' <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <00e901c6878f$581349d0$6501a8c0@spabbq> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, Eddie, for alerting us to these nuisances. I'd like to throw in my 2 cents which has helped me out tremendously. I found a nice little utility that I installed in my browser which tells me exactly which site I'm on. As noted below, you may think you are clicking on an eBay link, but in reality you're redirected to some bogus site that looks exactly like eBay. The utility I have actually can tell which site you are on, and if you don't see eBay in the information box, then DON'T continue! I recommend it highly. If you wish to check it out, here is the website: http://www.spoofstick.com/ AMC Content: Several months ago, I brought Greta into my mechanic's to replace the cracked head. Upon replacing that, he found that the exhaust manifold was so warped that he couldn't even shave it to fit. So I got another one--both the head and manifold came from that great guy in Salinas--Joe Fulton--and upon replacing it, discovered that the radiator really wasn't well. So I had the rad recored. I have yet to get the car back but she's getting close. I love old cars. Ross Guistino NorCal AMCs '73 Gremlin 304 aka Vivo '75 Gremlin X aka Greta -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eddie Stakes Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:19 PM To: baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; AMC List Subject: [AMC-List] various scams Many of you are aware of the different types of scams on internet, this is one of several you see that 'originates' from ebay. There are a mess of them out there like the "$20 Chase Survey" or "Laredo National Bank" or "put-any-credit-union name here" or "update your account" and so forth. All of them are intended for you to click on a link, which is anywhere from Nigeria, Britian, Romania, who knows, but it is a attepmt to steal your info, whether bank account, passwords, log in, user ID all of it. Thwe one below here won't have the official ebay headers and banners. But they sometimes show up, sometimes not, on the email the scammers send you. Some are threatening like "you cashed my chevk where is my item???" or "I'm going to turn you into ebay!" or as in the one below, tells you they have not gotten your paypal payment, like I would want a Chevy. On this one I simply looked at the item number which don't exist. So I didn't bother to even look up the 'seller' and simply forwarded whole mess to spoof@xxxxxxxx and spoof@xxxxxxxxxx since paypal was mentioned, they will then track it and shut it down on the servers end. But you gotta watch some of this stuff, as the scammers are really good and sneaky! ==================================================== Question for item #4645270941 - Chevrolet : Camaro Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Question about Item -- Respond Now eBay sent this message on behalf of an eBay member via My Messages. Responses sent using email will go to the eBay member directly and will include your email address. Click the Respond Now button below to send your response via My Messages. Question from jhonthomas30 jhonthomas30( 30036) Positive Feedback: 100% Member Since: Mar-22-04 Location: KY, United States Registered On: www.ebay.com Item: Chevrolet : Camaro (4645270941) This message was sent while the listing was active. jhonthomas30 is a potential seller. HELLO, THE CAR WILL ARRIVE AT YOUR HOME ADDRESS IN 2 DAYS.WHY I HAVENT RECEIVED THE PAYMENT FROM YOU IN MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT? PLEASE GET BACK TO ME ASAP! Respond to this question in My Messages. Item Details Item name: Chevrolet : Camaro Item number: 4645270941 End date: Jun-06-06 07:07:41 PDT Thank you for using eBay! http://www.ebay.com/ Marketplace Safety Tip Always remember to complete your transactions on eBay - it's the safer way to trade. Is this message an offer to buy your item directly through email without winning the item on eBay? If so, please help make the eBay marketplace safer by reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay" transactions may be unsafe and are against eBay policy. Learn more about trading safely. Is this email inappropriate? Does it violate eBay policy? Help protect the community by reporting it. Copyright C 2006 eBay, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of eBay, Inc. eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx *email is currently HEAVY Call if important* www.planethoustonamx.com _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:41:01 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] desert gremlin $75 To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <010d01c68791$a69491c0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original At least they are honest in description..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-AMC-GREMLIN-CHEAP-PROJECT-RAT-ROD-PARTS_W0QQitemZ4646443435QQcategoryZ39405QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx *email is currently HEAVY Call if important* www.planethoustonamx.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:58:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Painless dent removal To: amc list <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20060604045828.99638.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Doc, I have used this type of repair for a number of cars and it worked out really well. Not all dents can be fixed this way. The guy should be able to tell you just from looking at the dent if he will be able to get it out or not. 9 times out of ten, you won't ever know there was a dent there after they are finished. Nick Alfano Alfano Performance Kenosha, WI. 53142 262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends 262-308-1302 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: [AMC-List] Painless Dent Removal To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <10415-44802C5D-170@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII I have heard about this so called painless dent removal and wonder if anyone has had any experience with this kind of repair? I have a small dent in the hatch on my orange car near the trunk lock that the paint is not marred or broken just dented. It is near the trunk lock and is accessible if the locking mechanism in the hatch is removed. I'd like to see if one of these guys can fix it so I can preserve the original paint since it is so nice on the car. "Doc" ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 22:11:30 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 4 hole Flywheel (86) work w/ 3 hole Balancer? To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY114-F1488CA98ED031E8ECE9C05AC970@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A: SOme people with Jeeps have used the 304 and 360 flexplates interchangeably (I always found vibration) The 304 has slightly less offset weight than the 360. I went through this with my '73 J4000 when I swapped a 304 for the dead 360. WHich trans are you running? The universal with adapter ring? New flexplates are still available (I still have my old one from the '73. I was going to cut the weighted portion from it to find out how much the 360 needed but never got around to it. The teeth were nearly chewed off in one spot) From: Jesse <j2sax@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] 4 hole Flywheel (86) work w/ 3 hole Balancer? To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060603212546.22236.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK, please read before you respond as the header is a little cryptic. I am putting an 86 360 in my 73 Commando. When I sold the original 304 out of the Commando, I did not have time to keep the 3 hole balancer that came on it. So, will the flywheel that came off the 304 with the three bolt balancer be balanced OK with the 360 4 bolt balancer? If it is just a matter of comparing part numbers, what is the proper part number for a 360 flywheel that will work with the 4 hole balancer? Thanks and have a great week, Jesse Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com AMC list subscription options link http://www.amxfiles.com/amc-list/options.cfm _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 22:21:19 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Emergency sale of '68 Jeepster To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY114-F1852DC876FA8EAC14C227FAC970@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed FWD from the Jeep list I'm on: The problem with Brian's trans is most likely the wrong oil has caused synchro probs, the pilot bearing in the back of the motor has run dry (it gets extremely tough to shift when hot but works otherwise. People told him to put synthetic oil in right before this happened) The clutch doesn't slip. It just doesn't want to release easily. One other possibility is the clutch arm is bent (it's a 225 V6 snubnose with 3 speed standard) which is making it hard to disengage the pressure plate. (I did that a few times on older vehicles in my younger days) Bottom line is I don't think it's that serious a problem to fix, but I have no time/place to do it (I just sold my '93 XJ so I could attend my mother-in-law's funeral) I would be tempted to pull the std trans and get the Buick TH400 adapter ring for a BOP (Buick 350 or V6 from a CJ) and put the TH400 I gave Brian in (should bolt directly to the tcase unless it's a small hole D18) then it may need driveshafts (someone who did a TH400 to 3 speed swap should know for sure) "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan Here's the situation... Brian has this pretty decent '68 Jeepster that has a transmission problem. He's in a family situation where job losses have set them back... The transmission has a problem on his Jeepster and someone quoted him $900. That seems a bit steep to me, but I don't have time to crawl under it and check it for him. Maybe one of the Seattle-Snohomish-Everett folks can get in touch with him and help him out. So, here's the plea. 1) help Brian fix his '68 Jeepster 2) buy Brian's '68 Jeepster for at least $1,700 or more 3) do something to help him get it fixed here's some pictures of it. http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/68-Jeepster/ALL.html I've only met Brian once, and he's corresponded with both Jim Blair and me. He's a decent guy, hard working and honest. If someone can help him out with a wrench or a sale, that would be great... I'd vote for the wrench work... I'm being tempted by no less than three Jeeps at this point... but am resisting the urge, it's very hard, I remember when the '68 Jeepsters came out and they are so very, very cool. (my first car was a '68 Mustang!) If I didn't have 7 Jeeps of my own right now.... oh wait, 8. :) Brian, email me your phone number, if I get some time later this evening I might try to look at it for you... I can't imagine a manual transmission problem costing $900... You need to contact an honest mechanic, like Jim Startup over in Everett, Washington. :) john _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 23:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060604062035.17472.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 the guy also has a t96 with overdrive unit and a long tail shaft. tail shaft looks like it is set up for a slip yoke not a torque tube tho. would i be able to take off that tail shaft and put my torque tube mount on instead? i would just rather get rid of my torque tube all together. have an open shaft. i think my 62 has the t96 in it now. if i got the t86, wouldnt it be able to stand the 304 better when i get ready to put it in? will the 86 bolt on to my bellehousing? or be able to redrill holes in my bellhousing for mounting to the 86? once again, i have a complete second 62 classic with same drivetrain, so i am not afraid to attempt to modify parts. if i screw up, i have spare. thanks for any advice have a good weekend dave stohler camp taji iraq __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:21:15 -0000 From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project To: <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>, <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E65F6C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Date: Saturday, June 3, 2006 11:11 AM From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx> i came across a t86 tranny with a borg warner overdrive unit, torque tube mount and all. how hard would it be to shorten my torque tube to fit this set up, or would i even have to cause if i remeber right, i have a long tail shaft on my transmission, and i see this overdrive unit taking up where my long tail shaft is. did they put that long tail shaft on the back of none overdrive units so they could use the same torque tube set up? if not, would i be able to cut a section of the torque tube out, reweld it and shorten the driveshaft? i have a triangulated 4 link for the rear now so the torque tube will not be stressed so cutting and welding shouldnt be a problem would it? " Dave, I'd use a regular driveshaft with the trans and the four link. The rear axle will want to twist in the four link setup with the torque tube attached, causing a little binding. That or just leave the upper two links off -- the tube will keep the axle from twisting and that should eliminate most, if not all, binding. The seal on the torque tube tailshaft is the same as a Borg Warner trans with an open driveshaft. You'll have the flange for the torque tube back there, but that won't hurt a thing. You are correct -- the OD unit just replaces the long tailshaft housing on the standard (non-OD) trans. The torque tube is the same length. There are two different torque tube designs where they connect to the transmission. You will need the tube that came with the transmission you have. You can cut the front off and weld to the other outer tube if necessary, you don't have to have the entire tube and shaft, just the front portion. The 56-62 models use two large bolts, one on each side, with some springs to keep tension on them. 63-66 models use four bolts on a rectangular flange (one each corner) and a thick rubber piece between the transmission flange and tube. Of course the trans flange and tube flange must match. The flange bolts off the OD unit, so you can swap the flanges if you can find one of the correct types instead of modifying or changing the torque tube. You can shorten a torque tube, but it would be difficult for six cylinder or 56-62 V-8 models. They use a solid shaft similar to an axle shaft. It would have to be cut then resplined, something local shops may not be able to do. 63-66 V-8 shafts are two piece with a tubular front part. The front tubular section can be shortened by any driveshaft shop. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:26:20 -0000 From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E65F6D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Date: Saturday, June 3, 2006 04:52 PM From: andrew hay <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> " From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx> " " i came across a t86 tranny with a borg warner overdrive unit, torque " tube mount and all. how hard would it be to shorten my torque tube to " fit this set up, or would i even have to cause if i remeber right, i " have a long tail shaft on my transmission, and i see this overdrive " unit taking up where my long tail shaft is. did they put that long tail " shaft on the back of none overdrive units so they could use the same " torque tube set up? if not, would i be able to cut a section of the " torque tube out, reweld it and shorten the driveshaft? i have a " triangulated 4 link for the rear now so the torque tube will not be " stressed so cutting and welding shouldnt be a problem would it? thanks i wouldn't be surprised if amc arranged all tranny +/- od setups to be the same length - the t-96 had a -very- long tailshaft. but -- doesn't the t-86 have a different nose from the t-96? iirc it has a aquarer pattern, larger retainer, and longer 1 1/8" dia input shaft. iirc frank searched for some time for the right bellhousing for his 4.0 / '63 classic, before giving up and going auto." Not quite. I wasn't able to find a T-86 OD unit. I did use a 79 multi pattern bell housing with the 4.0L and a T-96. The T-96 just wasn't strong enough for the 4.0L (then 4.6L) and I replaced it with an auto because I couldn't find a T-86. I'm not sure about the bolt pattern and bearing retainer diameter of the T-86. I wouldn't be surprised if it's bigger -- would expect it actually. The T-96 is real light duty. The 86 and 96 may share the same bolt pattern though, the T-86 was a HD option for 196 cars that normally came with a T-96. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 06:37:50 -0400 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Painless Dent Removal To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <21384-4482B7FE-2122@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Thanks to all who replied. I have heard good things about the painless dent removal but have never seen it done or the end result. The reason I want to see about it is to not have to repaint the hatch on my Hornet where the dent is.The original paint is real nice. "Doc" ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 8 **************************************