Re: [AMC-List] Label me; label you; label AMC

[Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>Arfon also asked:
>
> >>
>This 1967 California 232 had a silver lable on the rocker arm cover...
>
>http://www.arvonia.net/~arfon/Rambler%20Battery%20Tray/MVC-003F.JPG
>
>...anyone know what it used to say?
><<
>
>Two things.  1) It's another good example of how an online AMCyclopedia 
>would beat posting-and-typing-and-posting-and-typing while hoping for a 
>better day.  The first time any question came up, if an answer had been 
>typed into an AMCyclopedia framework and edited, after additions and/or 
>corrections by even more AMC fans, had Arfon not looked it up, he would 
>simply need a link to follow.  Bingo.  Success.  No more of the lesser AMC.
>
>Puttering is enjoyable.  Individualism is encouraged.  -Accomplishment- is 
>essential for any endeavor to succeed and survive.  AMC now is a car 
>company that failed.  If AMC now is a hobby for "doing their own thing" 
>exclusively, AMC has failed again.  I'm not a writer but can find a word 
>for AMC: Forward!
>
>That's "Avanti" in Italian (as posted several times here) that any 
>self-respecting mid-western (Indiana or Dakota) American independent car 
>fan should be proud to know --- Studebaker Avanti was among the most 
>important post-war designs American motors built (the world outside AMC 
>acknowledges that fact) --- and also proud to make their own thing.
>
>AMC failed because it couldn't see; it couldn't plan; it couldn't change 
>what it had been doing comfortably.  It's painfully obvious now that 
>collectible AMC is comfortable doing the same thing.  I've written yet 
>another word here before.  No doubt it too, has no meaning.  Elcar.  As an 
>earlier AMC.

Good point! We need more input to the AMCyclopedia!  Everyone should 
contribute something and let the people with the organization skills sort 
it out.  I've contributed several things already.

One minor thing John, after about 240 words, you never did say what the 
sticker said...





>2) It's another example of how excellent AMC information online cannot 
>accomplish what it could if were AMC more a "co-op" than an "own thing" 
>collector car endeavor.  Trunnions (double "n" is correct, even though the 
>French --- yes, internationalism really is a good thing, and car lovers of 
>every age, education, and economic level really can look, listen, learn, 
>and accomplish for free --- is "trognon"), chokes (if you're choking on 
>this now, you may be reading and learning, thus -accomplishing- 
>something), and heat tubes were addressed.  Better than nothing, but just 
>another one-time thing.

Funny you should say this because, I asked about trunnions because I was 
adding this page: Hard To Find Parts & Services Directory 
(http://www.amcyclopedia.org/node/104)





>What happened to his other question?  If answered by "off-list" e-mail, 
>what was accomplished?  One piece of info for one individual doing his own 
>thing?  And for AMC?  If it wasn't answered at all, was -anything- 
>accomplished?
>
>Is that all that's left for the lovers of AMC?  Is that a way forward?  If 
>no one can remember the entire parts (or just wants to remembers their 
>"own thing" part) of AMC and no one looks ahead to a better AMC of 
>tomorrow, why will anyone want to do anything with AMC cars or AMC people?
>
>Cars and people can only succeed (yes, they both must -sell- themselves) 
>because of how they are built, how they perform, how well they are 
>serviced, how they look, how they are advertised and how they are 
>perceived.  In words, pictures, and music.  Life is a grand opera.  It's 
>not a game of solitaire.
>
>Good cars can be failures; bad cars can be successes but it's the complete 
>package that leads to survival.  Ford's "Bold Moves" and GM's "Then And 
>Now" campaigns (if you don't know both, find out; if you don't want to 
>know more, how very sad) recall AMC advertising.  I am lucky enough --- 
>no, I worked hard enough --- to talk with many of the very people (smart 
>people who know why looking, listening, and learning are important aspects 
>of being alive...) who had worked for (or more accurately, -with-) 
>AMC.  Mary Lawrence and several members of her staff once tried very hard 
>to make more of AMC.  I've talked with designers on the AMC staff, from 
>RAT to those who drew door handles for Grand Cherokee (yes, an -AMC- Jeep 
>that Chrysler inherited almost finished) and in the shadows (yes, AMC, 
>more than the Big-3, hired hired guns, or rather, Prismacolor pencils); 
>I've talked with kids and grandkids of AMC leaders; and I've talked with 
>anyone anywhere from Bloomfield to Agoura hills,!
>   in Bergs (yes, there are still overseas AM secrets) and in 'burbs 
> (Detroit to Stuttgart to Seminole swamp buggy) and I have jotted notes 
> and drawn doodles during/after all those meetings.  I've seen the 
> "Packard Pacer" color renderings and a '51 "Pacer" wagon; I know what a 
> production AMX Turbo could've looked like; I've seen photos of an AMX/4 
> clay with 15" Turbocast III alloys.  I think such AMC things are 
> worthwhile.  But maybe Larry Mitchell, Pat Foster, Retro Ralph --- and 
> you --- don't.
>
>I've listened to Lido, Dick, Chuck and a hundred others' AMC 
>stories.  I've spent hours and days writing (pencil on paper, guard 
>outside the door) notes in the most hallowed halls of Motown history.  I 
>don't mean the Detroit Public Library National Automotive History 
>Collection; I had much higher designs for AMC history than to just stop at 
>that.

You should contribute this information to the AMCArchives 
(www.AMCArchives.org)!!!!




>I should post a document file for the world?

YES YES YES!!! --> www.AMCArchives.org




>  What world?  Is the AMC World Club somewhere doing its something 
> new?  Is the AMC List/AMC Forum/Gremlin/Pacer/etc. world doing something 
> special that's some deep dark secret?  Are some Ambassador experts, 
> Marlin experts, Matador experts, AMX experts, Javelin experts, and Pacer 
> experts somewhere doing some dancing to tunes of some truly -cooperative- 
> AMCyclopedic structure?
>
>A rather respectable publisher won't publish a rather extensive book about 
>a rather undervalued, yet still rather worthwhile American carmaker named 
>American Motors.  "We just can't print a ~$100 reference book for such a 
>small market."  "There is absolutely no demand for such degree of detail 
>in that make/model segment."  "AMC collectors won't buy a 
>Buick/Cadillac/Packard quality book; they want something that's much 
>cheaper and much easier to read."

Post it to the AMCycolpedia and/or the AMCArchives!!!!

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