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Backspacing on 15x7 Rally Wheels (amxjavelin@xxxxxxxxxxx) 12. Re: 1973 2dr Matador 4-Sale (Jim Shadwick) 13. Re: 73 2dr Matador For Sale (Mr. AMC) 14. Re: 73 2dr Matador For Sale (Jim Shadwick) 15. Re: 73 Matador 2 dr for sale (Eddie Stakes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 12:16:42 +0000 From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AMC-List] Brand New Comp Hyd Cam for sale To: amc-list@xxxxxxx Message-ID: <051120061216.26594.44632B2A00073124000067E22205886442020704030A9DB9CCC99C9CBE0B0E0EBD@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain I have a brand new never used Comp AMC 290-401 Hyd. 305/540 cme for sale 50$ buys it. please emal me at BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxx if interested Bart 73 Gremlin 360/T10 project ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 12:18:44 +0000 From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AMC-List] chrome 1973 Gremlin rear bumper for sale To: amc-list@xxxxxxx Message-ID: <051120061218.1085.44632BA4000B4D700000043D2200737478020704030A9DB9CCC99C9CBE0B0E0EBD@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain I have a straight as an arrow no rust almost new looking 1973 Gremlin rear bumper for sale 20$ buys it,please email me at BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxx if interested regards Bart M. 73 Gremlin 360/T10 project ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 6:02:53 -0700 From: markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Kim's Paint Job To: amc-list@xxxxxxx Cc: "Mr. AMC" <AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20453218.1147352573526.JavaMail.root@web27> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 A few years back I put a rear main seal in a Mustang conv that had a Maaco spray job on it. It was sharp. Nice heavy metallic dark red. No funky stuff in the metallic, no strips, no dirt, very glossy with minimal orange peal if any. The only thing it needed was better prep work. It had the body colored side moldings, so they just sprayed them in place. Other then that it was super sharp. My wife has mentioned wanting to change the color on her Jeep. If I ever get to it, I would prep it myself stripping off all the flairs and trim and take it to Maaco and let them spray it. Only problem is the nearest shop is two hours away! - Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ---- "Mr. AMC" <AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Russ is right about Maaco. It is usually poor preparation that kills > their jobs. A friend poorly prepared his Javelin body work wise and just > had Maaco scuff it and shoot it. It was masked pretty good and painted a > metallic gold. The paint had no runs or dirt and had a real nice gloss. > In some metallic's the metallic in the paint runs and not the paint, it > didn't even have that. All in all if the preparation had been done > properly it would have been a real nice job for a real reasonable price. > Needless to say the poor initial preparation made it look like a real > smear job. > "Doc" > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:22:59 -0400 (EDT) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Kims paint job To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <200605111222.k4BCMxX09522@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> " From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> " " Kim; If the car is straight, take off all the chrome " and the windshield, take off the rear hatch and wing " window. " Go to Maaco (everyone stop snickering) and ask for " their top paint job. Get some extra coats of paint and " clear. Then have it wet sanded after the paint cures " and buffed out. New window seals and becareful about " putting on the bumpers. I don't think you will be into " it more than $1500. And Maacos top paint job is a real " nice 3 foot paint job.......Russ maaco is also one of the few places with ovens to bake-cure the paint in. they can't give it a really hard bake unless you strip everything nonmetallic off, but even what they can do gives you a better, more durable finish. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:52:26 -0500 From: "Vince Scamardo" <vscamardo@xxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Test: Do not reply To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY107-F7854C9E1D3FE1E2CD0059B7AF0@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Please do not reply. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:51:32 -0400 From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] AM see To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <E8DF38ACFC17F94998DE284C5CE4582A02202B8E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" AMC money, http://tinyurl.com/nfm7n (If your PC is [or you're] lazy, RM sold a '70 AMX for $10,593) AMC artistry, http://www.eyeson.org/html/evn_eod_pos_06.htm AMC archives, http://www.autoblog.it/post/3743/bmw-mille-miglia-concept#more (of AMX, Tarpon, and Marlin) (If you want easier-to-read words, you get harder-to-see photos) http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=14533 AMC VP memories, "Mentioning Marlin was like shouting 'Edsel' at Ford: part of the fun." and Datyona dreams. http://mmm.lib.msu.edu/search/imagedisplay.cfm?i=EB01e502 27 years ago yesterday, I ordered a small [two-seat-plus] AMC fastback. But I just couldn't decide on a paint color. Should it be Alpaca Brown or British Bronze? At the very last moment, I chose 9A over 8B. I didn't have a -clue- about its AM history. http://www.rmauctions.com/images/cars/az06/az06_r125_1.jpg Who knew! See? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:36:51 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Question for item #9518937432 - AMC bumper guard Hornet Gremlin AMX SST X Concord To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <014401c67528$41eb2930$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hey folks, does anyone know whether a bumper guard will interchange from side to side or are they side specific? I know some won't interchange due to the uniqueness of the bumpers. I have a set of NOS Matador ones and it is two seperate part numbers for instance. And on my Ambassador SST, same deal, one right one left, however on some models like Eagle, it will interchange, or rear of 68-74 AMX/Javelin interchange no problem. Anyone know for sure please feel free to comment. The item link is down below. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com Item: AMC bumper guard Hornet Gremlin AMX SST X Concord (9518937432) This message was sent while the listing was active. donandmarie is a potential buyer. ------------------------------------------------------- Is it for the left or right side? Item name: AMC bumper guard Hornet Gremlin AMX SST X Concord Item number: 9518937432 End date: May-16-06 18:44:06 PDT View the item description here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9518937432 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:41:00 -0400 From: Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Hornet-Eagle question To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <ADVANCES62JsusXlCYE0000014b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain Russ: Yes, the Eagle hatch/glass and the Hornet hatch/glass are 100% interchangeable. Keep in mind that the Eagle wagon is just a Sportabout with 4WD and different front sheetmetal. And, in actuality, Hornets were available with a heated rear window starting in about 1975 or so. To carry the thought a bit further, you could use the Eagle donor car to install power windows and door locks on your Hornet.... Jeff Reeves Auburn GA 94 Cherokee 79 Spirit GT 73 Javelin 401 72 Javelin SST 69 Ambassador DPL ============================================================= Posted by wixList Archiver -- http://www.amxfiles.com/wixlist ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:37:57 -0400 From: Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 Matador 2dr for sale To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <ADVANCES62pH2q6DqaJ00000149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain Nice solid car, but what's with the Chevy truck moldings on the side??? Re value--unfortunately, you won't get as much as you'd like for this car simply because AMC Matadors don't rank high on anyone's value list. As mentioned earlier, Eddie Stakes tried to sell a 14,000 original mile 71 Matador 2dr for about 5 or 6 years, and finally found it a home. IMHO, you could probably realistically expect to get anywhere from $1500-3000 for your car, mostly due to the fact that it's straight and rust free. Of course, you might have terrific luck and find someone willing to pay a lotta $$ for it, but like I said, that's my humble opinion. Ebay seems to be a good indicator of current market value on cars like this. Put it out there, with a reserve. If it meets reserve, terrific. If no, then maybe it will give you some idea of how much you can get for it. Good luck! Jeff Reeves Auburn GA 94 Cherokee 79 Spirit GT 73 Javelin 401 72 Javelin SST 69 Ambassador DPL ============================================================= Posted by wixList Archiver -- http://www.amxfiles.com/wixlist ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 13:11:28 -0400 From: "J. Johnson" <imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] My Latest project To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <ADVANCES62ednHM3SOl0000001b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.wps.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20060509/0c2cc1aa/attachment.ksh -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: J. Johnson <imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] My Latest project Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 13:11:28 -0400 Size: 2235 Url: http://www.wps.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20060509/0c2cc1aa/attachment.mht ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:30:47 -0500 (CDT) From: <amxjavelin@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Backspacing on 15x7 Rally Wheels To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <4821612.184331147375848026.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello: I have a '73 Javelin with the 14x6 8-slot rally wheels. The backspacing on these wheels is 4". I would like to switch to 15x7 wheels and would like to know what the backspacing on the factory 15x7 rally wheel was for a reference? Thanks, Dave ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:12:07 -0600 From: Jim Shadwick <idahoamx@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1973 2dr Matador 4-Sale To: amc-list@xxxxxxx Message-ID: <44639A97.9060804@xxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Rus.... What is the interior like....pictures..... I paid $3900 for my low millage 73 in Nov of 2004....there was a guy willing to pay $5000 for it..... http://www.cascaderamblers.org/common/gallery.php?year=1973 on the bottom.....and it is not perfect.....which I found out when I got it home.... I would try e-bay.................I went to $4100 on a 72 in early 2004 not as nice as yours or mine.......I think the problem with the one Eddie was selling was the color..... Jim USN Retired -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/336 - Release Date: 5/10/2006 ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:17:10 -0400 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 2dr Matador For Sale To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <22129-4463A9D6-915@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Jim I don't think it was the color that kept Eddie's car from selling. The 74 Hornet I bought 2 1/2 years ago was a 99% rust free car from Florida. It was orange with a puke tan interior with a horrible 70's style leisure suite plaid colored seat inserts in the seats. The 99% rust free and the 500$ sale price sold me on the car and fact it was a 74 Hornet Hatchback also sold me on the car. 74 Hornet's are my thing. I still have my bought new yellow one. I have learned to live with the orange color after I installed a whole new black interior and now when it will need paint it will be re-painted the same orange. My son was interested in Eddie's car but being a 71 with the Warner trans turned him off along with other issues in the pic's sent. Unless you are a low mileage car collector a rust free low mileage car can be re-painted and the interior re-done to your tastes. My low mileage 99% rust free car was a mechanical nightmare. But mechanical repairs are WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY cheaper than rust or previous collision damage to repair. "Doc" ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:01 -0600 From: Jim Shadwick <idahoamx@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 2dr Matador For Sale To: amc-list@xxxxxxx Message-ID: <4463BDF5.8000409@xxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mr. AMC Your probably right Doc......it did have some issues..... for me it was the color and the fact it was a 71...I only wanted a 72 or 73..mine has a 360 2bl /TF...runs really good.....but does have some minor body and paint issues...no rust.... Jim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/336 - Release Date: 5/10/2006 ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 20:33:12 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 Matador 2 dr for sale To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <02d501c67564$1bb6ebf0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Eh, the one I had for sale was for sale for a staggering 6+ years. Have NEVER Atried so hard to sell a AMC. Relentless ads for $4500, then $3500. Put it on ebay with reserve not, once, not twice, but three times before listing it for $1900 and NO reserve where it sold for $2650. This was a 14,000 mile car folks. I drove it all of 208 miles in the 13 years I owned it. It STILL HAD LESS THAN 15,000 ORIGINAL MILES on it when the fellow flew in recently to drive it home to Marietta, Georgia! Here are some photos off my 'Matador Machine' file on my site: thsi is it at the Nationals we did in Houston. The car had a few bites but no one was willing to give me $3500 for it either. http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71_matador_amc_nationals.jpg A side view: http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71matador_ds.jpg Stunning interior in front http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_buckets.jpg and in back no one had ever sat: http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_ps_rseat.jpg flawless dash http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_dash_close.jpg engine bay in original faded glory http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_engine_front.jpg and most of the items are date coded also. I did change the carb years ago. another angle http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71matador_ps_frt.jpg original bill of sale http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_owner_id.jpg there was TONS of original paperwork and documentation with this low miler. http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_odometer.jpg this photo shows the odometer with still less than 15,000 miles several days before the buyer picked it up. http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_sales_2.jpg here is more...this is the original bill of sale from Wtihen AMC/Rambler/Datsu in Brimingham, AL! And lastly, off my 'window stickers' file on my site is the original Matador window sticker: http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amc_window_stickers/71_SAMPLE_WINDOW_STICKER.jpg if this link is too long for here, simply click on 'window stickers' on my site and then 71 Matador. This is the file of the 71 Matador Machine http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/matador_machine.htm Back to mine, there was only 7776 71 Matador two doors made. Mine was one of two ultra low miles still known to exist. I mentioned to Jim(?) the seller who original asked the question what his is worth that one of AMC's slogans was "The Nicest Car You've Never Seen" for the "new" 71 Matador. AMC had a sense of humor, humour if Canadian. But it didn't help move the Matadors either. As for ebay.....not everything sells on ebay either. This Matador was a prime case. I am something like 2 out of 7 (better record than Houston Texans last year though) on selling a car on fee bay. My fly in drive home 69 Ambassador SST is still for sale for $975 if anyone interested, hell, the tilt column alone is worth about 1/2 of that: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4630772691 And my 68 AMX just "sold" or at least I thought it did, however the buyer was not Nigerian but a 16 year old kid. His dad has agreed to pay my listing fee, final value fee and relisting fee, so like herpes, this dog will pop back up on ebay again: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4632920558 I believe the Matador produced from 71-73 had some sort of image problem. And I'm not sure why as I really like the bumper incorporated into the body, seems like AMC got it right there as opposed to earlier 67-70 Ambassador and 67-69 Rebel. I was disppointed my 72 Matador Z code two door with 46,000 miles in original Yuca Tan only brought $2650: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4562427988&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAS:US:3 (item number 4562427988 above if link breaks) Imagine same car...in same condition....if a Sattelite, Road Runner, Charger, Monte Carlo, or any other intermediate. This was a formidable 401/727, the most powerful AMC had to offer. $2650. And so it goes! Good luck with the Matty, I hope you do good with it, feel free to place your for sale on my 'amc classifieds' http://www.planethoustonamx.com/bodyMessageBoard.htm also, actually any of ya'll can utilize that too. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 4, Issue 24 ***************************************