I have to second Mark on the not using over the originals, unless the originals are in fairly good condition. I covered the Matador seats because they weren't the color I needed. The seats themselves were in fair, but faded, condition. No tears or anything. I got the tweed and vinyl covers for my 63 before I replaced the original bench seat with buckets. The piping around the original bench was broken in several places on the backs. These edges wore through the tweed in about a year, but I use my car as a daily driver -- back and forth to work daily, not as a spare or good weather only driver. The bottom was bad enough I had to remove the original cover and used a piece of 1/2" foam over the cushion. The only caveat to removing the original cover is there will be some open spaces around the back hinge. I just took some small pieces of vinyl that were close to the same color (the vinyl/tweed covers have tweed where you sit, vinyl around the sides and on the back) and used duc! t tape and a few hog rings to hold it in place while I pulled the Autocraft cover over it. That worked just fine and looked good too. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Independent Magazine" (AIM) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx > I used these on the American and have used them in the past. > I've not been impressed with the Vinyls as the seams are heat melted and look > cheap [IMHO]. The tweed vinyl combo in my American now, I like except for the > vinyl piping on the front 95 Ranger buckets I'm using. They picked asrange way > to do this and I'm not wild about it, but at the time it was all I could afford. > They are holding up well. I would use the tweed again. Frank is right about them > being slightly over sized. To build up the back I would use either foam pad or > even carpet pad as it is fairly stiff and rigid and would hold shape better. I > always take th e old covers off and use foam to build the seats up till I get > the look I'm after. I feel that leaving the old cover sin place is just asking > for them to wear thru the new covers, especially if they are vinyl and old and > have hard rough cracked edges and torn piping. > If you are JC whitneying them, I suggest going to Autocraft directly. The > price is the same or close, but they are very good, [or have been in the past] > people to work with and they will give you many options JC won't, plus they will > send out samples and will do some fairly complex mix and matching. I have top of > the line front covers on my 95 Ranger buckets in my American and bare bones > bottom of the line cover on the stock 69 rear seat. [IMHO] the plain cover on > the rear seat looks better than the fancy covers I got on the front! I even > bought extra yardage and made my own flat tweed door panels. Last note, Get > extra Hogrings!!!! They never give you enough! I called them after I ran out and > they sent me more free! > > Mark Price > markprice242ATadelphia.net > Morgantown, WV > _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com