John, I used Autocraft covers on 1974 or so Matador "Individual Reclining" seats with hard shell backs. I seem to recall that the covers went OVER the hard shells, but that was a long time ago. If AJ is "listening" he might remember the car as he did some work on it for the next owner. I do recall that the covers had the back done in the same material as the rest of the cover. I don't clearly recall if I pulled them over the back or put the plastic back on over the cover, but I think it was over the back. That just makes sense -- otherwise you couldn't change colors in the interior very easy. If the backs are missing the covers won't fit very tight without something to take their place. All Autocraft covers are designed to pull snugly over the existing upholstery, so leaving the carpet should be a good idea. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Independent Magazine" (AIM) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) original message ----------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:15:16 -0400 From: "John" <marq@xxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Seat Covers 1970 buckets I don't have the plastic shells for the buckets on my 70 Ambo, they were long gone before I bought the car. I am looking for a low cost recover on the seats and will be removing the cheesy carpet that was glued onto the back of the bucket seats by the previous owner. Has anyone successfully upholstered over the back (where the shell was)? Has anyone used Autocraft seatcovers on 1970 buckets? John 70 Ambo SST _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com