AMC-List Digest, Vol 3, Issue 59

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Today's Topics:

   1. hornet/concord/eagle interchange question (Eddie Stakes)
   2. Eighty Years Ago (Michael Bailey)
   3. Car Craft Rambler - inside scoop! (Mike Kindle)
   4. Re: Car Craft Rambler-Inside Scoop (Mr. AMC)
   5. More Details (Mr. AMC)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:47:53 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] hornet/concord/eagle interchange question
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	"Doug Shepard" <dshepard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Duane <Blitzman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <02c501c66b15$d07a7790$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

If anyone knows if below question will interchange please give Duane a shout thanks.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Duane       Blitzman@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: Non-AMX jav form request


Hiya Eddie,

   This is Duane, I talked to you a few days ago about hatch compatibility of cars with `72 Hornet Sportabout.
Was wondering if Eagle rear hatch will fit on `72 Sportabout, will later Sportabout hatches fit, also it looks to me like the front doors from all 4-door Hornet and Concords are the same, are they? the eagle doors look the same too cept for having totally different interior and electric windows.. hmm... might be neat to have electric windows in front only.   :0)

Take care,
     Duane


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:42:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Eighty Years Ago
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060429014255.37543.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

  Finally!  I have escaped the spam caves of Yahoo,
and have figured out how to receive the AMC-List once
more. Thank you, Frank.
  
  John, I'm not sure if you mean today's date (April),
or if you are talking about May.

  In May of 1926, Nash Motors dropped the Ajax brand
and renamed the car the Nash Light Six. The dismal
sales figures of the car immediately turned around,
and it became a best seller.  Nash dealers sent out
badges etc. to convert the remaining Ajaxes to Nashes.

  But as we all know, May day is sacred to American
Motors Fanatics for one primary reason, as that is the
genesis date of our beloved Corporation.

  Only 52 years since the May 1st birth of our
controversial, lovable underdog, and nearly 20 years
since it passed. In that short span, it seems as if
information about the Corporation and Its cars has
become one "Amalgamated Mass of Contradictions". At
least that's what I hear.  But there are things that
can be done about this intolerable drought of useful
info.

   I have decided to honor this anniversary in a
similar manner to which I did with the Gremlin.  In
cooperation with 

] AMCyclopedia.org [

 and 

] The Old Car Manual Project [, 

 Route 66 Rambler will be providing online scans of
the well-known but seldom-seen -1969 American Motors
Family Album-.  This is a very important document, as
it represents American Motors' own official history of
Itself from 1897 until 1969, during the Corporation's
most controversial period.
  Any study of American Motors Corporation should
seriously consider this tome as a baseline for further
study. It is also important for two reasons:
 1) What this book tells you about American Motors.
 2) What this book does NOT tell you about AMC.
  Sources within the American Muscle Conspiracy have
located this ancient and mysterious book of knowledge,
and smuggled it out to the Museum project. There, the
highly-trained technicians of the Route 66 Rambler
Open Library Project proceeded to ruthlessly sacrifice
this voluptuous and priceless document to the scanning
apparatus.
  After 12:00 A.M. on the morning of May 1st, or
Merger Day, The Old Car Manual Project will have the
book available for viewing.  These scans are about 1.4
MB each, and were scanned at 300 dpi, yielding around
3200 pixels wide.

The Old Car Manual Project:
   http://www.tocmp.com

 For those with a 56K connection or who just don't
want to wait that long, the AMCyclopedia will have
medium-resolution scans taken at 300 dpi and reduced
to about 1200 pixels wide. These scans are sized at
around 100 KB each and take around 30 seconds to load.

The AMCyclopedia:
  http://www.amcyclopedia.org

  Some people who have seen these scans say the yellow
appearance of the pages bothers their eyes. I am
posting various informational documents in galleries
on a photo album site called PhotoBucket. I will
provide a link to the Family Album and a few other
documents from the Gremlin Page at:

  http://www.geocities.com/route66rambler

This collection of scans is "Digitally Re-mastered",
or scanned at 300 dpi in Greyscale, then enhanced to
provide more readability and some of the original feel
of the document. The grey tones are easier on the eyes
for some people. These scans are also 100K in
size(1200 pixels wide).
  I will post a link to the PhotoBucket collection as
soon as I have a few things ready there.  The Gremlin
Page will be transformed into the Route 66 Rambler
Report, which will have a similar format, but will be
more general-interest AMC, as well as providing
virtual museum functions like galleries of cars and
ads, and documents for historical and technical
studies. The Gremlin Page will become a secondary page
to the main Report.
  I will be opening a second free site to make access
to the information I will be providing easier.  Most
likely it will just be a backup to the other pages in
case I need it, as well as providing some basis for
e-mail etc. that is not related to FREAKING YAHOO! 
  At the moment I am reduced to guerilla warfare
tactics until I can pile up enough change to launch a
proper website.
  I would encourage AMC'ers everywhere to honor the
birth of American Motors by contributing information
to the online community. Anyone who has owner's or
technical manuals, or good scans of them, should
donate a copy of the material to The AMCyclopedia, or
The Old Car Manual Project, or post it online
yourself. Some of the larger sites like Planet
Houston, Arctic Boy or JavelinAMX.com might be able to
take something like that and display it. If any of you
website operators would like copies of either of the
100k sets, e-mail me at:

  route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx

 They are available as zip files of 15 pages each.
Sorry, but I don't have the time or connection speed
to send these out to individuals.
  Happy Merger Day
mike



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:17:32 -0700
From: "Mike Kindle" <mike90066@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Car Craft Rambler - inside scoop!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY113-F2385C99A3714B35E79776AFCB30@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

I got to talk to Douglas Glad today.  He's the Car Craft editor who is 
building the 67 Rambler that you may have seen recently in the magazine.  He 
talked about the difficulty of doing a Rambler.  Because of the smaller 
following, he can't put it on the cover, and after all the work that goes in 
he only gets a few articles out of it.

And apparently he's been getting a lot of grief from some AMCers criticizing 
how he chose to build the AMC engine.  He did a bunch of tests with 
different combinations of aftermarket parts so that anyone out there could 
benefit from the dyno knowledge of different combinations, and mostly he got 
back complaints that he spent too much and his connecting rods were the 
crime of the century and he should have done things differently etc.

I told him that being a diminishing minority, AMCers can feel threatened and 
get panicky and lose the big picture, and for every critical comment he 
should assume ten times that in quiet approval.  Still if he had to do it 
over again, I don't think he would.  And it's his car!

But he did say that he thinks the coverage it has been getting in the 
magazine, with a circulation of 2 million, is having an upward effect on the 
value of Rambler Americans that he's noticed on ebay, and if you're going to 
sell one now is the time to do it.  He said the same thing happened when 
they focused on 3rd Gen Cameros (whatever that is).

So I think everyone on the list should send an email to Car Craft, or post 
something on the forum for the project under "project cars" at carcraft.com, 
thanking them for paying attention to AMC's and encouraging them to 
continue.  I used to think that working at a car magazine would be the 
coolest job ever, but after talking to him, I don't know.

Inside scoop?  Well, I guess I can say he is planning to see once and for 
all how big a tire and wheel combination you can fit in the American, while 
showing for the benefit of all how to measure for this on any car.  I think 
215/75-14 on the back and 185/75-14 on the front.  We'll see what the 
magazine comes up with.

Mike Kindle




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:43:59 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Car Craft Rambler-Inside Scoop
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1675-4453436F-137@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

I tried to get to the project cars section and the next thing I knew I
was looking at a Motor trend subscription page. I bet he is getting the
same flack from his peer's about building a Rambler American as we all
do about our ordinary bread and butter Ramblers and AMC's no matter what
engine it has. Welcome to the world of AMC's. If you want easy build a
cookie cutter Camero and become a stepford car driver,. 
"Doc"



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:15:49 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] More Details
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
	BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1675-44534AE5-153@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

I finally got ahold of the guy that tinted my windows for the dark smoke
tint for the American Motors letters for my windshield logo. I will
spell it out across the windshield and then with the light smoke tint he
used on the side windows I will have him tint the windshield 6 inches
from the top. The American Motors logo will be very subtly visible. I
finished up the last Hornet front fender emblem with the with the orange
edging like the body color instead of the factory black. The 2 that are
already on the car really look nice. The final one is baking in my
dehydrator. I still have the plastic stick on AMC emblem with the red
white and blue logo to restore. I tried to remove the faded red white
and blue logo from the emblem and it cracked. I was going to make a new
one anyway out of 60 thousands model plastic. The rest of the emblem is
soaking in Castrol Super Clean to remove any paint and the chrome vacuum
plating. The chrome will be replaced with chrome modeling foil the edges
painted orange and a new red white and blue insert glued in. The whole
thing will then be clear coated with a gloss engine paint. I used this
method to make the AMC emblems for my after market wheels last year from
scratch and they have held up fine. Next I have to zinc plate the new
rear hatch guide pin I made. The original one was made out of white
metal and was broken. I made mine out of steel. I am using Eastwoods
plating kit. Then it is back to the grill which  have to have back in
the car for the June 4'th Ardsley show. What a project this car has
turned into from a clean 500$ car that was going to be a daily driver to
a 15,000$ money pit in 2 1/2 years. But what modern new or used car
could I get for my 15,000$, a 4 door "Ricer"? Not me!!!!!
"Doc" 



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