I think Charlie Nash, George Mason, or George Romney would be jumping on the E85 bandwagon today. They might even have a Rambler model called the E85. When and if it becomes commonly available here in CA, I think I'll convert one of my old cars to run on it. Surely a Rambler three speed with overdrive would get decent mileage on it. And it sure beats paying dues to ragheads (excuse me, people with textile headwear) who want nothing from me but my money. Archer Daniels Midland may stand the most to gain by E85 right now, but the technology to make ethanol is pretty simple (although patented biota may complicate the issue in the future). Too many folks know how to set up a little production device in a secluded hollar in the hills. Joe Fulton Salinas, CA Joe Fulton Salinas, CA _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com