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Today's Topics:

   1. Vaccuum advance (steven rideout)
   2. Vaccuum advance (steven rideout)
   3. Re: Scored:Fresh Cherries Gremlins (Larry R. Daum)
   4. Are there any AMC parts lists by number with	descriptions?
      (Jerry Casper)
   5. Re Parts List (Bill Strobel)
   6. Export Grand Wagoneer lights (Jim Blair)
   7. Various Axles for sale (in Seattle) and looking for an	MJ
      axle (Jim Blair)
   8. 3 bolt harmonic balancer for 360 wanted (EBay) (Jim Blair)
   9. amc wanted (brendan barlow)
  10. Re: Vaccuum advance (John Elle)
  11. Re: amc wanted (Todd Jesme)
  12. Re: amc wanted (RetroRalph)
  13. American project updates/ 3 questions (Mike Kindle)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:22:53 -0400
From: "steven rideout" <steven.rideout@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Vaccuum advance
To: <AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <002101c6616b$baeb8530$75a3c5d1@rideout>
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How much additional timing should be added when the vaccuum advance is connected on a motorcraft electronic distributor
I have my timing set at 12 degees initial and when i hook up the vaccuum it jump,s to 40 is this normal
does anybody know if they make an adjustable vaccum advance for this distributor


Steven Rideout
       Ont/Can
1973 AMX


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:37:56 -0400
From: "steven rideout" <steven.rideout@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Vaccuum advance
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Could somebody tell me how much additional advance shoud be added when the vaccuum port is connected on a motorcraft electronic distributor
when i connect mine my timing goes from 12 to 40 does this sound correct

Steve Rideout
Tottenham/Ontario
1973 fresh plum AMX

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:36:13 -0700
From: "Larry R. Daum" <mramc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Scored:Fresh Cherries Gremlins
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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RE:Scored:Fresh Cherries Gremlins

I was in the local Wally Mart last night and as I usually check the model 
car section and stumbled on the mythical Fresh Cherries Gremlin.
They are 1:24 scale or so, Black with a turquoise  interior , roof rack and 
rear spoiler and turnable front wheel, opening doors and hood $9.97!!!! I 
took the 3 on the shelf . There was a couple of the Pinto there also. These 
seem to be the only 2 of the series out with promises of more in different 
colors. Not up to ERTLE standards but not bad for the 10 bucks each. Any 
one else find them, or in another color? Larry R. Daum




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Are there any AMC parts lists by number with
	descriptions?
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  Hi, was just wondering if AMC ever put out a huge
numerical parts list by number, THEN by description.
Probably for their internal inventory, but thought
that would be a huge savings in time to look up parts
and descriptions, if you have a by-the-number book. I
have several Collision parts guides, but that's only
good if you know what the part is, and what year it
fits. Just curious if anyone out there in AMC-land has
seen such a listing. 

Jerry 

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:16:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Strobel <theamcguy@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Re Parts List
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Hi, was just wondering if AMC ever put out a huge
numerical parts list by number, THEN by description.
Probably for their internal inventory, but thought
that would be a huge savings in time to look up parts
and descriptions, if you have a by-the-number book. I
have several Collision parts guides, but that's only
good if you know what the part is, and what year it
fits. Just curious if anyone out there in AMC-land has
seen such a listing.

The only thing I can think of are the AMC Parts Price Books.  These list the part numbers in order and give a short description.  The description is really short and will only tell you what the part is usually not what it fits.  It also tells if a part has been superseded with another part number.   I have never sen exactly what you are looking for.  By the way on the subject is there any rhyme or reason to the AMC parts numbering system?  Is there a way to tell what a part is by the part number?  Or were they just assigned in sequence?      

Bill Strobel
Independent Towing
Fayetteville NC
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:53:00 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Export Grand Wagoneer lights
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Anyone know where someone could get these lights? (Only on export models 
with the mixed red and yellow signal lens)


http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TerryHalmshaw-AU-2006/kiks13.jpg

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:29:22 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Various Axles for sale (in Seattle) and looking
	for an	MJ axle
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F35B22FDB6F92E304B5D027ACC70@xxxxxxx>
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I have collected together a bunch of spare axles over the past few years, 
and I've decided I need to unload what I have (to get something different of 
course! <G>) I have a CJ Model 20 (with 2 piece 5 on 5.5" pattern) that I 
think is a wide track with 3.31 or 3.55 gears for $50. (I keep forgetting to 
measure the width and check the ratio when I get to it in my storage)

  I also have an FSJ narrow trac (but still wider than the CJ one) Model 20 
with 3.31 or 2.72 gears for $50 (complete with brakes last I checked)

  Dana 35, aka Model 15 from an XJ with 3.73 gears $50 (needs a pinion seal) 
and one piece axles. Non-c-clip style.

  AMC Eagle D30 front axle (non-vacuum) 3.08 ratio $75 obo (I bought it for 
$100 for my then project Eagle wagon and it's just sat around since I had to 
give up on it)

  Chev D44 SOA housing w/o gears (I have the axle shafts someplace) $50. Had 
the mate to it bolted into my '84 J10 to set up my high steering. Gave me 7" 
of instant front lift! ( http://www.virtualjeep.com has a small pic of it)

  I'm looking for an XJ or MJ Model 20 rear diff (complete with axles and 
preferrably 3.73 gears, which only the 4 cyl 4 speeds came with AFAIK) to 
put in my COmanche. Most go with a Ford 8.8", but those are power and 
clearance robbers (I can brace the Model 20 easily enough with a skid plate 
built in)

   My wife also wants me to go through the 47 various driveshafts I have and 
thin the herd too! <G> (I just don't know which 6 I need to keep for my MJ 
and 2 FSJ projects or which 2 for my son's 4 cyl Comanche 4x4 conversion 
because none of the drivetrains are stock)

   I'll be going through my gas tank collection as well (my J10 won't need 
one as it is going pure propane with the stroker motor)

Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 
J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:21:59 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 3 bolt harmonic balancer for 360 wanted (EBay)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Not me!

http://wantitnow.ebay.com/Jeep-J-10-AMC-360-3-bolt-Crank-Pulley_W0QQadidZ8056513940

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:32:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: brendan barlow <taker20032@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] amc wanted
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does anyone have a any amc for sale
  if do please e-mail me back
  thanks
  brendan barlow

		
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:46:28 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Vaccuum advance
To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:37 AM
From: steven.rideout@xxxxxxxx
 
Could somebody tell me how much additional advance shoud be added when
the vaccuum port is connected on a motorcraft electronic distributor 
when i connect mine my timing goes from 12 to 40 does this sound correct
 
Steve Rideout
Tottenham/Ontario
1973 fresh plum AMX
 
Steve
I do not have data on that particular distributor. The proper
distributor for your car has points so it is a later conversion. 
Using data which I find to be typical an additional 28 degrees advance
is a bit large for just hooking up the vacuum. But then again that
distributor is probably designed to use ported vacuum rather than intake
manifold vacuum. One of the differences would be that vacuum at idle
would be about zero (0) thus when hooked up would  not show much of an
increase at all depending on what your idle speed is at the time that
you measure it.  So my first guess is you are using intake manifold
vacuum for your vacuum source. 
 
In general, the distributor that probably came with your car would have
been set for 5 degrees advance at idle with a total of about 23 degrees
mechanical advance at somewhere around 3000 rpm plus an additional
maximum of 6-8 degrees available from the vacuum but once again it would
have been ported which depending on rpm can be significantly lower than
intake manifold vacuum. 
With the advent of smog requirements things got a bit tricky and in many
cases poorly controlled until computers became available.
Part of the data that you are looking for is probably printed in the
electrical and/or emissions control section of the TSM for the same year
that your distributor is.
John. 


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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:43:00 -0500
From: "Todd Jesme" <jesme@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] amc wanted
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
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Brendon,
Where are you, what are you looking for, how much are you looking to spend,
what shape would you like it to be in???.....I think you see where I'm going
with this.  We need a little more info.

Todd (NW Minnesota)

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Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:32 PM
To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] amc wanted


does anyone have a any amc for sale
  if do please e-mail me back
  thanks
  brendan barlow


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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:22:07 -0700
From: "RetroRalph" <retroralph@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] amc wanted
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
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I think there is a whole bunch of them here... click on the link below:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/Shut_Up_Files/amc_for_sale.htm

These cars are all over the place but Eddie has the tools to check area 
codes and everything all lined out for you.

Also check http://www.amxfiles.com/ Epages AMC ads.  There are always a few.

Or just do a Google search... "AMC cars for sale" delivers some ads right on 
the internet.

Todd's right. If you want cars from AMC-List members please give us a little 
more to go on such as best locations for you what years and models or any 
other criteria.

Anyway, there sure isn't a shortage of ads.
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Brendon,
Where are you, what are you looking for, how much are you looking to spend,
what shape would you like it to be in???.....I think you see where I'm going
with this.  We need a little more info.

Todd (NW Minnesota)

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: [AMC-List] amc wanted

does anyone have a any amc for sale  if do please e-mail me back
  thanks
  brendan barlow

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:02:09 -0700
From: "Mike Kindle" <mike90066@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] American project updates/ 3 questions
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>It's great to have Mike Kindle, John Elle, and Izzy
>posting again.  Welcome back guys.

Thanks Joe.  I guess I'd been lurking for awhile.  I guess it's time for a 
project update?
Rescued 69 American wagon:
This one was parked for years due to a rear bearing turning to dust because 
some mechanic seems to have put it back together without any shims to set 
the axle end play.  After learning how to rebuild an amc rear and redoing 
all the brakes I test drove it several times.    That went well, so I 
decided to fill the gas tank up because I was expecting to drive it 
regularly now.  Filling the tank up revealed a gas leak and also knocked an 
incredible amount of rust loose from the previously exposed metal tank 
insides that quickly clogged the fuel line.  So that car got sidelined until 
recently when I used up the other half of a POR-15 brand tank sealer kit 
that I originally got to do the tank on my 65 2 or so years ago.  It seems 
to have a good shelf life if you reseal the can good like I did with duct 
tape, so I say you can do two tanks with one kit.  The leak was actually 
from the filler hose, some sharp object had punctured it.  It is a long 
special hose so I replaced it with a standard 45 degree bend filler hose and 
a standard 90 degree bend filler hose and a 2" pvc coupling.
(?#1)My online research shows PVC being resistant to gasoline and ethanol 
but if anyone has better info let me know.
Next on this car is to rebuild the suspension and then it will drive great 
but still be ugly.

65 2dr American
I finally figured out my front brake grabbing problem is that the pair of 
nicely turned front drums I got from a junkyard car were turned off center.  
Anyone in LA have a pair of 9x2-1/2 drums?
(?#2)Anyone know how to remove the hubs and transfer them to new drums?
I can get new drums at autozone but I suspect I'll have to somehow swap the 
"integral" hubs.
I also put in a FENCO brand remanufactured master from autozone which is 
actually sleeved, and you can see the sleeve through the reservoir ports.  
Canadian company.  Seems to work well so far.  The Cardone brand has been 
bad luck for me in the past.

Future project:  I'm investigating a Rambler American w/232 AT that is down 
due to a destroyed flex plate.
(?#3) What is the "improved two piece design"? on southtexasamc.tripod.com 
what's the difference/advantage etc. with this flex plate vs. the original 
style which I can get locally.  Sounds like there's a story there.

Thanks,
Mike Kindle




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