Man! Am I glad the list is back up! Most people change out the Mustang T5 gears because first is so deep whereas the Camaro's are spread more evenly on the bottom end. (Many Stangs came with 3.0X or higher rear ratios; first is so low that if you run with 3.54's or .73's or lower first gear is useless unless your gunning 6K!) I could not understand what you were saying concerning the input of the Stang T5. The inpput shaft should be the right length as it is. You have to modify the bearing retainer (the little aluminun cone that the input shaft goes through and holds the front bearing to the tranny face with 5 or 6 bolts) or get one from an AMC T4, 5, or I think even an SR4. If you use the Stang retainer, have a machine shop (or Randy Guynn, who did mine) machine it down to match your bellhousing hole. Some people enlarge the bellhousing to fit the Stang retainer, however, in my estimation that is much more likely to mess up the concentricity of the b-hing to tranny to crank center relationship. And you can always switch back to an AMC trans in the short term if your T5 needs a rebuild. The other mod is to shorten the bearing retainer to reaveal more of the input shaft splines. If you put the AMC and the Stang T5 retainer side by side, you will see that the AMC retainer is shorter. You can have the machine shop do that or just use a hacksaw (with the retainer off the trans, of course!). THough the input shaft may go deeper into the pilot bushing, as long as it is not bottoming out in the crank tail you should be OK. BTW, you know a really great way to get out the pilot bushing without the mess of grease or the expense of a "claw" is to use bar soap. Go out and buy a cheap bar of soap and stuff the old bushing you're removing from the crank tail with soap shards. Use a wooden dowel that barely fits the pilot bushing and start pounding and stuffing more soap into the hole. The pressure from behind will force out the bushing and cleanup is easy. Some folks use grease but that is NASTY especially if the dowel let's some by... high powered SQUIRT! My .98! Have a great week, Jesse Once the Stang retainer is __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com