Re: Texture of paint for a Shadow Mask car

[Colin Hillyard <chillyar@xxxxxxx>]

 Mike,
i have 3 different 'numbers' for P8 Shadow Black that might help you
out. DQE 9372 (ditzler enamel), DDL9372 (acrylic) are shown in the 67-72
parts book. and for some reason i have DDL 9381 written down, think that
one is a 'similar' version that i found on e-bay one time. last time we
spoke about it on the list, i think we came to the conclusion it had
more of a satin/egg shell texture to it - but my memory sucks. let me
know how you make out, i've got 2 of these things so i'm in the same
boat as you.

Colin Hillyard
Oakbank, Manitoba, Canada

> From: "Gary Walker" <NashFlash@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Texture of paint for a shadowmask car
 
> You may find a source of paint surface gloss numbers for AMC cars.  That is
> something that we all need in our resources anyway.  Gloss is the term you
> need to use in this case.  Gloss is measured with the use of special
> measuring instruments which use light to detect gloss at levels
> corrosponding to a number scale of zero to one hundred.  This is an accepted
> standard used in automotive and motorcycle industries.  The measurements are
> taken using one of only two angles for refraction, 60 and 85 degrees which
> has to be taken into account when trying to match paint gloss.  Some larger
> paint shops use these instruments and some of our more accomplished AMC
> restorers may have access to one of the devices.
>    A perfect flat on the gloss scale would be zero.  A perfect if possible
> gloss on the gloss scale would be 100. ( That would be a perfect mirror with
> no pigment )  The proper terminology for casual verbal reference is in five
> ranges as follows ;   Flat  0-15,   Eggshell  5-20,  Satin  15-35,
> Semi-Gloss  30-65,  and   Gloss  65-100.
>    Someone should be able to help find the data you need to have the proper
> gloss measurement for originality.  Fred Koos has lots of old AMC technical
> data.   You may check with someone who has done a perfect restoration such
> as the guy with the BBB AMX and BBB Javelin. I forgot his name but it is
> easy to find.
>    I DO hope that this helps.  I ran a coating line for GM for about 24
> years and absorbed some trivia.
>           Your AMC freind,
>            Gary Walker    Owner of some old stuff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mike watts
> To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:58 PM
> Subject: Texture of paint for a shadowmask car
> 
> Repainting my 70 AMX and ready to paint the shadowmask but painter needs to
> know if the Black was a textured like chryslers  organisol or a smooth
> finish.
> 
> was it gloss, semi gloss or flat?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> Mike Watts