Folks, I have posted before about difficulties with what I thought was driveline vibration (especially at 55 to 65 mph) in my 80 Spirit with the GM Iron Duke and the California emissions package. I thought I had the problem corrected and was actually satisfied to drive it without any more tinkering. It turns out the problem thus far had been a combination of a bent flex plate (my fault) and a mistuned emissions carburetor. Last week, after sitting for several days the car would not start. Like a dope I assumed the two year old battery was not at fault. At rest it showed 12.5 volts with a voltmeter. I didn't have a helper handy to test the battery voltage in the "start" mode and I did not remove it for testing elsewhere at first. Because the symptoms seemed to come and go when I jiggled the ignition key, I replaced the ignition switch. No joy. I then replaced the neutral/park switch on the tranny because again the symptoms (dim pre-start lights on the panel and no sound from the solenoid when in "start") were intermittent and seemed to vary when I jiggled the floor shifter. Again no joy. I then cleaned up the starter/block interface and tested the starter. It tested good. Reinstalled it and as a last resort replaced both original (25 year old delco) battery cables and had the battery tested. The battery also tested bad under a load test at Kragens. The new battery cables and a different battery did the trick. The car now runs better that it ever has. The idle is so stable it's like a fuel injected car. I don't know if this will help anyone on the list because these Iron Duke AMCs and Jeeps with the electronic version of the carburetor are getting very scarce but I now know it sure helps to have a stable electric system feeding full voltage to the ECM and this electronic carburetor. This carburetor is not that same as the 49-state version, at least not in 1980. So I did things in just about the reverse order and made things a lot more complicated and expensive than they should have been. Battery and cables should have been tested first. Now I know. As an aside, the battery was an Exide. I have had more troubles in the last few years with Exide batteries, than any other brand I can remember. I'll add that to my do not by list which includes so far: General Tires Firestone Tires Exide Batteries Amsoil Products Joe Fulton Salinas, CA