Re: How to shoehorn a 1983 258 into a 1970 Hornet (long)

[adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)]

" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Sandwich Maker wrote:
" 
" > " That's with the motor mounts dropped into the stock location on a
" > " six-cylinder front crossmember. There are two sets of motor-mount
" > " brackets for the six, that position the mounts forward or
" > " backwards; I used the right set (I have both).
" >
" > more info please!  this is the first i've heard of these - both short
" > style for small cars i presume?  what years/models for each of the two
" > styles?
" 
" I thought it was common knowledge! There's something I know you
" don't?  Shocking.

my clay feet are exposed!

my focus has always been on '64-9 americans, since for 24 years
they've been my daily drivers and main cars.  i know lots about other
amcs, but...
--
some time ago, i noodled up an adapter plate to put a t5 behind a
small-bell six.  never tried making one but sure looked good on
paper...  it would use a '90s mustang 3.8 tranny.

late-gen sixes don't have a clutch problem; even 199s can take a 10"
disk, though you -must- use a 10" pp, -not- 10.5"!  the bigger ones
will fit the flywheel but not clear the bellhousing.  but the 196
flywheel was never drilled for this larger clutch pattern though i
believe it has the room for it.

now i think i've just found the answer!  the 144/170/200 ford six -
which has been mentioned here for early american power - has a very
small 130-tooth flywheel and also takes 9 1/8" clutches.  for '60-5,
their transmission - according to chilton/motor/mitchell manuals -
looks and sounds a lot like a t-96, and the disk has a 15/16"
spline...  but in '65 the new toploader family was fully online and
ford started using them for everything, so the light-duty 3sp version
[known even then as a t150 btw]  replaces the earlier peanut.  the
disk is still 9 1/8", but now it has a 1 1/16" spline -- just like the
t5!  i believe it was used from '65/6 well into the '70s behind the
170 and 200, so supply should be easy.

" Tomorrow I'm working on cars -- so I'll dig out the brackets and
" photo and measure. Basically both bolt to the three bosses on the
" block vertical; the pad that the motor mounts bolt two, with two
" bolts, is shifted front or rear, depending. Handy to have both
" sets!

that's what you said before.  i take it you don't recall what cars you
got them from?  maybe we [collectively] can figure that out, comparing
your pics to our cars.
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