Re: power steering pump replacement

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One note to add.
Get a filter and add it to the return lint to catch any debri the flush may miss.


Mark Price
mpriceATwestco.net
Morgantown, WV
69 AMC rambler, 4.0L, EFI, 5 speed 
65 Ambassador Conv, 327 AUTO, Basketcase
01 S-10 CREWCRAP 4X4



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From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: mail-From-mprice-westco.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date:  Sun, 1 May 2005 11:29:41 -0400

>Thanks Frank.
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>Jay
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <farna@xxxxxxx>
>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:46 AM
>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>
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>> If you don't want to replace the steering gear and hoses just yet flush 
>> them real good. Get a gallon or two of diesel fuel and a bucket. The 
>> return line on the PS should be an unpressurized clamp on line. Take it 
>> loose at the pump and stick it in a bucket. You'll need a short piece of 
>> hose with a plug to put back on the pump. With the engine running start 
>> pouring diesel in the OLD pump. You might need someone to turn the 
>> steering wheel back and forth. Without a load the diesel won't hurt the 
>> steering gear, and it should flush most of the debris from it.
>>
>> Hook the new pump up the same way, with the return hose in a bucket. Pour 
>> in a quart of cheap trans fluid (any type will do). Run that quart through 
>> the new pump and old steering gear to lube it back up good and get any 
>> pooled diesel fuel out. A small amount of diesel won't hurt anything, but 
>> will thin the PS fluid. To much could be a problem. After that flushes 
>> through reconnect. The steering gear may have some damage from the debris 
>> and have to be replaced later, but won't fail catostrophicly. It will just 
>> start to get play in it over time like manual steering. This will at least 
>> buy you a couple years, depending on how much you drive the car.
>>
>> One more thing -- get some of the "Morey's Oil Stabilizer" and put about 8 
>> ounces in the new PS pump. At least one rebuilder ships PS pumps with the 
>> stuff coating the insides! It will help, but don't use more than 15% of 
>> fluid volume. I think the pump, gear, and hoses hold about two quarts 
>> altogether. Put the rest in the engine or auto trans. A quart in the auto 
>> trans is almost like a shift kit in a bottle! I ALWAYS ran it in my BW 
>> M-35 for the last 5-6 years I had it and never had a problem. And I drove 
>> that car hard -- well, as hard as you can drive a hopped up 195.6 OHV!
>>
>> On April 27, 2005 Jay Ciampi wrote:
>>
>>> YOu are so full of GOOD NEWS  Matt!   LOL.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>>
>>>
>>> > Jay,
>>> >
>>> > If you have a 1/4 inch end play in the pump, it's toast. A rebuild kit
>>> > isn't going to have all the parts you need (they basically have new 
>>> > seals
>>> > and a shaft bushing). Rebuilt pumps are pretty inexpensive (I think I 
>>> > paid
>>> > less than $50 for mine). Your steering gear is probably full of trash 
>>> > now
>>> > as well and should be rebuilt or replaced at the same time (it doesn't
>>> > look like a difficult job to rebuild one but you need a few special
>>> > tools). It would probably also be a good idea to replace the hoses to 
>>> > make
>>> > sure they're not full of trash as well.
>>> >
>>> > Matt
>>> >
>>> > At 10:13 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>> >>rebuild the steering gear?  I can move the pulley and the shaft it is
>>> >>mounted on about a 1/4 inch backward and forward. Is that normal?
>>> >>
>>> >>Jay
>>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>> >>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:29 PM
>>> >>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Jay,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Rebuild kits for the Saginaw pumps are inexpensive (about $10) and 
>>> >>>easy
>>> >>>to install. A rattle may be from sticking rotor vanes or it's possible
>>> >>>that some other trash is in it (in which case you should replace or
>>> >>>rebuild the steering gear). Also, rebuilt pumps are pretty easy to 
>>> >>>find
>>> >>>and are likely to be in stock at better parts places. There are two
>>> >>>different reservoirs that were used while AMC was around but the pumps
>>> >>>are identical otherwise. The only real issue you need to watch out for 
>>> >>>is
>>> >>>that the pulley attachment method is the same. The early style uses a
>>> >>>bolt on pulley and the later style uses a press on pulley (you need a
>>> >>>special tool to remove and install these).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Matt
>>> >>>
>>> >>>At 05:50 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>> >>>>Hey Guys,  I have a PS pump that has a rattle in it at one speed (30 
>>> >>>>mph
>>> >>>>in high gear) and it is annoying, but I am concerned that it will 
>>> >>>>fail
>>> >>>>just at the most inopportune minute.  Has anyone got  replacement 
>>> >>>>parts
>>> >>>>kits for these pumps. I guess there is more than one brand of pump.
>>> >>>>Where do I look to find out the manufacturer and model on the pump?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Jay
>>> >>>
>>> >>>mhaas@xxxxxxx
>>> >>>Cincinnati, OH
>>> >>>http://www.mattsoldcars.com
>>> >>>1967 Rambler American wagon
>>> >>>1968 Rambler American sedan
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>>> >>>According to a February survey of Internet holdouts released by
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>>> >>>not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
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>>> > mhaas@xxxxxxx
>>> > Cincinnati, OH
>>> > http://www.mattsoldcars.com
>>> > 1967 Rambler American wagon
>>> > 1968 Rambler American sedan
>>> > ===============================================================
>>> > According to a February survey of Internet holdouts released by
>>> > UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
>>> > not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
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