Simple- a hardtop-convertible! I'm sorry I even brought the subject up, as after I sent the note, I decided to try and find a definition... and found there isn't one....certainly no more definitive than any 'MuscleCar' definition. Now, NYS is calling your hatchback a sedan because AMC did. My window sticker called it just that- a 'hatchback sedan'. In my minor research yesterday, I found indications that lean this way: It's partly about the stationary B-pillar...and whether the car has one or not. <but not always> Hornets have a stationary pillar behind the door, ahead of the quarter window. Most four doors do, thus we tend to look at a four-door and say 'sedan' right away. (Anyone know of a 4-door exception?) The absence of a B-pillar tends to mean it's a coupe. But it seems our own Matador is a glaring example of non-conformity. The 71-73 two-door has no pillar, but is called a 'two-door sedan'. The 74-78, with opera windows installed, has a B-pillar (or does that not count?), yet is called a 'coupe'. Me thinks this is a question for one John Mahoney. Batter up! John -----Original Message----- From: AMC74HORNET@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:AMC74HORNET@xxxxxxxxx] Who know's why some are called coups and some sedans. My hatchback's are called sedans on the registration in N.Y. and so is my son's 2 Javelins which are definitely not sedans but hard tops. What would you call these new metal folding topped converts? "Doc"