Re: Identifying the T-5 5 Speed
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Re: Identifying the T-5 5 Speed
- From: "Todd Wallis" <cyclone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 08:24:29 -0600
Joe-
This was the most succinct yet informative post on the T5 so far. I
actually learned something here and it may help me make a decision on
choosing a trans.
Thanks,
Todd Wallis
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For those that haven't had enough on the T-5
Information found at: http://www.5speeds.com/t5/index.html
The T5 5 Speed was originally manufactured by Borg Warner Automotive. The
first T5 5 speeds were manufactured as far back as 1982 and are still
being made at the time this page was written ( 2001 ). The T5 was the only
American made standard transmission to span almost 20 years of production.
Before the GM's Muncie 4 speed held that honor. Because of the large
quantities of T5's produced, many parts are interchangeable, allowing one
to create interesting 5 speed combinations. No other transmission allows
this to be done quite this easy. There are now over 260 different T5
transmission assembly part numbers.
There are 2 basic kinds of T5 5 speeds. Non World Class ( NWC ) and World
Class ( WC ). The T5 is an evolution of the Borg Warner SR4 4speed. The
SR4 was a lightweight design, ball bearing and needle bearing counter gear
box using bronze synchro rings. The T4 was an improvment of this design,
using tapered input and output shaft bearings combined with a drawn cup
roller bearing countergear. The T5 NWC was a T4 with an added 5th gear.
NWC T5's were issued in 1982. First applications were in S-10 Blazers. By
1983 Ford started using them in the Mustang, GM had them in the F body
Camaro and Firebird Cars, AMC had them in the Eagle and Jeep lines. AMC
dropped the T5 by 1985 to make room for cheaper Peugeot and Toyota boxes.
By late 1985 the first WC boxes were used by Ford. The WC boxes had 1st,
2nd, and 3rd speed gears riding on roller bearings instead of solid
shafts. The countergears saw an upgrade to tapered bearings. The bronze
synchro rings were replaced by fiber lined rings and dual cone designed
rings to improve ring surface area. GM started using WC boxes as early as
1988 in the Camaro / Firebird line but still kept NWC boxes in S-10's and
Astro Vans. By the mid 1990's most of the GM T5 installations were all
World Class.
How to identify T5 5 speeds. There is a TAG ID program. The TAG ID
program requires the stamped number off of the tin metal tag bolted to the
tail housing. No other numbers on the case, tail or cover are needed or
will tell you anything. Over this 19 year span we have seen improvments
to casting designs, synchro ring designs,alloy changes, addition of
reverse gear synchro's and sadly the sale of Borg Warner's T5 line to
Tremec Corp.
Send me an e-mail if you would like a copy of the Tag ID's that I have
started in Excel...There are over 200 listings by number and vehicle the
T-5 are used in.
Joe W.......................
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