Re: Not all T5s are created Equal, The right ones Are...............

["Joe Wyatt" <jwyatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mark, based in the info that you posted, your "1984 and T-5 in a HO Mustang" 
I assume was a V-8,  would have had a WC T-5, and based on the 100,000 mile 
design (conservative/overkill) you had 10,000 plus miles to go.  Most of my 
information comes from old Car Craft & Hot Rod articles, as we know from Car 
Crafts articles on the AMC 401, they can make errors sometimes.  All my 
information states that Ford made enhancements to the WC T-5 in their 1985 
Mustangs to help correct the weak points of the T-5 for the HO Mustang (GM 
did not change till 1988).

I do not know when the first WC T-5s were made, but I'm looking, If any one 
has the May 1992 Car Craft article there was a casting number chart  (T-5 
identifying numbers and dates for all T-5 WC variants produced to that date) 
with the article, I don't have it but would like a 
copy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Like wise I got the 305 lbs from the May 1992 issue of Car Craft .

The first NWC T-5s were light weight and developed for fuel-efficiently.  As 
the power V-8s were rediscovered,  BW needed to beef up the T-5 so the WC 
T-5 was developed to meet increasing engine torque levels.  Then there's the 
T-56, BWs Heavy-Duty six-speed (that's another post).

What I see here is if you would like the strongest T-5 to insure durability 
behind a 360, 390, or 401 go with the WC T-5, if your running the smaller 
engines go with either one, if you not heavy footed.

This is the same with the 71 and earlier AMC BW autos,  304's and smaller 
used the Aluminum housing, larger engines used the steel case.  I have one 
of each in my garage just in case I wish to place my 71 Javelin back to 
stock......

As I play with my 360 and don't try to kill it I run a 904 in it, and it 
came from a 74 Javelin 6, but because my son can't keep tires on his car or 
truck I helped him put the heaver 727 in his, and hope it doesn't leave 
parts some where on the road.

Reminds me of his brother 4 years ago when he called me and asked me to 
bring the trailer to get him, his brother and his car, when I got there my 
older son had his hands cupped with gears in them, that they had picked up 
off the road way, he asked "Can we reuse them".  My comments were "if the 
### things fell out they sure aren't going back in..................."  I 
cooled off some time latter.  Boys and our toys......

Joe W...........

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Date: Fri,  4 Mar 2005 12:50:45 -0500
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Subject: Re: Not all T5s are created Equal, The right ones 
Are...............

I hoped I'd get some interest and replies to this. I haven't read them all 
yet, but, Here goes. I read half dozen different sites that all state that 
the torque rating for World Class T-5 doesn't increase to 300 lbs till 1990. 
The Only thing better about the early world Class trans is the bearings on 
the main shaft, synchros and tapered bearing/shim package on the cluster. 
This only helps longevity and shift smoothness. Not torgue rating increase. 
I also read that third gear loves to go bye-bye on the early versions of the 
World Class trans.
It might be why you can find them on Ebay all the time needing clusters and 
third gear!
I don't care about shift smoothness, within reason, I was real happy with my 
84 T-5 in the HO Mustang I had. It had 90K on it when I sold it and still 
worked fine and I beat it.
All the happy coatings on the synchros don't impress me much either, Give me 
solid Brass and a slightly notchy shift with no coating to wear off! Needle 
bearings on the main shaft, Whoopee! A good synthetic lubricant and no 
needles to wear out are fine by me!
All I'm really saying is that the Old fashioned Non World Class tranny 
should be more than fine by me.
 That being said, does anyone know if there is a way to put the AMC T-5 
Tailhousing on a World class tranny? What output yoke would I need to use? 
Does a Ford T-5 share Length and I could simply change the bushing in the 
AMC tailshaft to use the ford Yoke?
That would make it possible to use the World Class tranny wihtout cutting up 
my floor again.
Mark Price
mprice@xxxxxxxxxx
Morgantown, WV
69 AMC rambler, 4.0L, EFI, 5 speed
65 Ambassador Conv, 327 AUTO, Basketcase
01 S-10 CREWCRAP 4X4