A: I downloaded the MSN program and ran the other programs first. It hasn't detected any of the 70 odd spyware programs the others have found. Doesn't sound very good to me so far. From: "Bruce Hevner" <scramblr@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "AMC AMC" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Spyware and keyloggers Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:03:25 -0500 One thing everyone with access to the list controls should know is how to > make sure they have no keystroke logging in their machine or spammers > hackers will get in (I run Housecall and Ad-aware SE before doing any online > transactions for this reason). That is for those silly enough (like me) to > still run Windoze. I am a PC Tech part time. Those applications alone will NOT keep you safe!! I currently run 3 apps on all the 50 some machines I do maintenance on. SpyBot, SpywareBlaster AND the new AntiSpyware program from MicroShaft. http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx This is one of the best applications out there and it is FREE from MS. But hey,,, that's just me! Bruce Hevner Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com AMC list subscription options link http://www.amxfiles.com/amc-list/options.cfm