Interesting, I was one of the original subscribers to this list and now when I try to log on, it tells me I am not a subscriber. It will be interesting to see if this direct email gets thru. If it does, lets bring up the subject of Randy. He has been a thorn in the side of all of us at times with his overly enthusiastic responses but lets not forget he is a serious contributor to this list and obviously has more time to contribute than I do. Banning him may satisfy a few egos but it will not make the list better or more informative. If I don't like what Randy says or I think he's getting carried away, the delete button on my computer works just fine. Lets all get over this childish BS (Randy included) and get on with the hobby the list is supposed to serve. If you don't like somebody or what they have to say, email them directly and KEEP IT OFF THIS FORUM! Jim Mantle TMM Performance Products Black Creek, BC