RE: I6 Humpster plan (700R4 vs AW4)

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If you like the 700R4 and are familiar with it then you may want to go ahead.
 A two wheel drive AW4 can drive a speedo. I htink they switched to electronic in 92 or so, but the case is still set up to allow cable drive with the older adpater.
 I don't see two wheel drive AW4's around here either, but they are a dime a dozen in the warmer climates and shipping shouldn't be too big a deal. But it may be easiest to just go the 700R4 route.
 I would probably be happier with the 4l60E if it was a little more adjustable. I don't care for how the computer shifts the thing. The 4.3 pulling around 4500Lbs of S-10 Crewcab 4X4 doesn't help any!
Mark Price



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From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Reply-To: mail-From-mprice-westco.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date:  Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:30:18 -0500 

>Maybe it's because I'm in Michigan but I'm having a really tough time
>finding a 2wd AW4 I've got 4wd ones seemingly everywhere but not the other.
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>The 700R4 is just an easy to work with tranny that I'm already familiar
>with. I can get a freshly rebuilt 700R4 with a shift kit and a 2000 rpm
>stall converter for only $795. I will never make enough power to break it
>and properly maintained can expect 100,000 plus miles from it. The bad side
>is the added parts to fit it in, adapter, cables, yoke, stuff like that that
>adds to the total cost.  
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>If someone can point me towards a AW4 that I can interface with the stock
>speedo and that's 2wd I'd certainly consider it strongly. 
>
>I'm surprised you don't like the 4L60 I've beaten the hell out of one behind
>a LS1 for 3 years and still haven't had any issues.
>
>~John
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:07 PM
>To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: I6 Humpster plan
>
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>John,
>   Why the 700R4???? I have the 4L60E in my S-10 its a fairly crappy
>transmission IMHO! I've driven Jeeps with the AW4 and it is a superior
>transmission in gear spacing and shifting etc; Again IMHO! I'd suggest you
>get a 2WD 91-96 4.0L and AW4 and drop the whole thing into the Javelin and
>don't look back! It would save you the costs of the Crank Sensor relocater
>and the 700R4! Plus the AW4 will run 200,000 miles easy with minimal care.
>Drive a Cherokee with one in it check it out. Mark Price
>
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>From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: mail-From-mprice-westco.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date:  Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:15:40 -0500
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>>Thanks a ton I'll check it out! My '70 AMX is plenty mean but is such a 
>>pain in the rear for any distance. I'm building the Javelin for daily 
>>commuting and don't need to leave hundreds of feet of rubber with it. 
>>Although with the torque figures with the 4.0 that might still not be 
>>out of the question.
>>
>>
>>~John
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:01 PM
>>To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: I6 Humpster plan
>>
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>>I used the Advance Adapters harmonic balancer timing trigger and am 
>>well pleased with it. It costs less then Hescos and uses a regular easy 
>>to get Jeep sensor. I liked the mounting method better then Hescos. I'm 
>>not sayning anything bad about Hescos, mind you. Just thought you might 
>>want to check out Advance adapters and be aware of all your options. 
>>This link should take you to the part number, but no pic :[
>>
>>http://eshop.advanceadapters.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_i
>>d=180
>>1 
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>>
>>Mark Price
>>
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>>From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: mail-From-mprice-westco.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Date:  Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:17:25 -0500
>>
>>>Ok here is the plan for the mean green six popping humpster.
>>>
>>>Jeep 4.0 HO w injection
>>>Hesco harness for conversion and harmonic balancer timing trigger 
>>>Novak
>>>hydromatic conversion plate 700R4 tranny w/2000 stall and electronic 
>>>lockup 18x9 inch rims
>>>Now I just need to work out some brakes. (need a booster, disks etc)
>>>
>>>Should have it all by fall and plan to do the swap over next winter.
>>>The 4.0 should be plenty of power in the lighter car and have some 
>>>super highway manners with the 700R4 overdrive. I'm getting a fender 
>>>from a list member and just need the front and rear spoilers and some 
>>>new leafs to make it sit right. I'll be painting it myself with a nice 
>>>silver base coat clear coat. Right now I plan to go with Espo leafs, 
>>>anyone have any other places they recommend or know where I can find 
>>>some Hi Per composite springs? This is by far the cheapest car I've 
>>>ever planned out and because it's so different it should be pretty damn 
>>>fun.
>>>
>>>~John
>>>
>>> 
>>>4.0 to 700R4 adapter			Novak Adapters		437AMC-1
>>>1	$325.00	   
>>>					   
>>>Wiring harness with computer		Hesco
>>>P5007148		1	$423.00	   
>>>Harmonic balancer trigger 91-03	Hesco
>>HES9199ED
>>>1	$289.00	   
>>>					   
>>>700R4 built 2000 stall w/converter	monster motorsports
>>>1	$795.00	   
>>>					   
>>>2004R/700R4 Lock-Up Wiring Kit	TCI
>376600
>>>1	$94.80	   
>>>700R4/2004R TV Cable Bracket		TCI
>>>376700		1	$27.45	   
>>>700R4 N1350 yoke				TCI
>>>967350		1	$116.56	   
>>>					   
>>>Lokar 700R4 kickdown (TV) cable	R-Jays			KD-2700HT
>>>1	$53.95	   
>>>speedometer cable				R-Jays
>>>SP-1500U		1	$52.88	   
>>>Firewall mount trans dipstick		R-Jays
>>>1	$58.96	   
>>>					   
>>>1991 - 1996 Jeep 4.0 with sensors and injection
>>>$800.00	   
>>>					   
>>>Black Mustang Saleen Wheels 18x9	wheel index
>>>1	$449.00	   
>>>					   
>>>Kumo Ecsta Supra 265/35WR18		Tire Rack
>>>2	$168.00	   
>>>Kumo Ecsta Supra 235/40WR18		Tire Rack
>>>2	$116.00	   
>>>					   
>>>Hurst Pro-Matic shifter			Summit
>>HUU-383-8511
>>>1	$159.95	   
>>>					   
>>>New leaf springs				Espo
>>>
>>>1	$190.00	 
>>>
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