Well, I'm glad to see that I have generated some chatter accross the ether. Some people think that nitriding is super expensive, but it is not. In fact, we nitride BY THE POUND, with a 100lb. minimum. Therefore, the more cranks we have in a run, the cheaper it is. Example: if you sent a crank from Ohio to the shop in Portland, Or, and did not have a UPS account, it would run about $170 to ship the crank both ways. (We prefer Forward Air) This is more than $100 over the cost of the nitriding. Except for one engine, all the motors we build run offset ground 2" SBC journals with a couple of 1.88" NASCAR size thrown in. The possibility exists that we could have a crank that is harder in one area than another. We feel that any crank that might be cut beyond the factory hardness level will be better for the process. (does anyone know what depth the AMC cranks were hardened to from the factory?_ L. Peterson Kustom Kemps __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com