Re: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?

[farna@xxxxxxx]

Well, I'm *reasonably* sure the Machine decals were on the deck lid and front fenders, possibly glovebox as well, but these cars are so rare I can't say 100%. I do know it wasn't something the dealers did. It may be that some dealers ordered "Machine" packages before AMC had made a final decision on retaining it for the Matador and the early orders were fullfilled before it was canned. This is just speculation on my part, however. As noted, the package wasn't heavily promoted. I don't think the semi-gloss hood was used like it was for the "solid color" 70 Machines either. That would make it just an option package. I'm not even sure the hood scoop was used, though that would seem likely. Anyone know for sure about the scoop and decals??? 


On October 20, 2004 Ken Ames wrote:

> See page 108 of 'Amazing AMC Muscle' or 104 of Mitchell's AMC Muscle Cars for
> more info.
> 
> Ken Ames
> 
> Quoting Rocky Lear <rockylear@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> > I wasn't even aware that it had machine decals of any kind on it. Since it
> > wasn't actually promoted in hardcopy like amc did the rebel machine,
> > scrambler and sc360 hornet, the matodor machine might have been the idea of
> > some dealers who added the decal themselves.
> >
> > Rocky
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <farna@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?
> >
> >
> > > The biggest thing to remember is rarity doesn't necessarily transpose to
> > > collectibility and/or value. It's a popularity contest, mostly. You can
> > > have a one of one car, which one would think to be valuable, but if no one
> >
> > > is interested in it what's it really worth? Rocky has a good point too --
> >
> > > the Matador Machine wasn't really advertised by AMC. It was really just an
> >
> > > option package -- no special paint or even stripes, just the "Machine"
> > > decals. Easy to clone cars don't usually command high prices, though there
> >
> > > are exceptions like the Donohue Javelin. That goes back to the popularity
> > > thing though!
> > >
> > >
> > > On October 19, 2004 ROCKY LEAR wrote:
> > >
> > >> So much of this is ones perspective. There is probably a lot of scarce
> > >> AMC's. Forgive me for my foolishness but I never really knew where the
> > >> title
> > >> "Matador Machine" even came from. Clever title, but if it wasn't
> > >> advertised
> > >> in hardcopy by AMC in some way with documentation it is just a clever
> > >> title
> > >> for a very rare optioned car. Larry Blatt's 67 Rogue X code was one of 50
> > >> something that were built. I think there is only 2 or 3 known survivors
> > >> of
> > >> that run. Someone fill me in.
> > >>
> > >> Rocky
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:29 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > From: amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&rd=1&item=2495886793&category=5357
> > >> >
> > >> > ----------------
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes that certainly is its Pat Wneks old car and now
> > >> > Brad Dennings and might i say that Brad has done a
> > >> > FABULOUS job restoring her.I can't belive its back
> > >> > together finally :)
> > >> > Bart M.
> > >> > 73 AMC Gremlin 360'AMC'
> > >> > 73 Ford F100 360'Ford'
> > >> >
> > >> > ----------------
> > >> >
> > >> > Bart,
> > >> >
> > >> > Just noticed your updated signature. It's going to be
> > >> > SO convenient having a 360 in both your rides! You can
> > >> > just swap pieces back and forth when needed in a hurry!
> > >> >
> > >> > :)
> > >> >
> > >> > Sorry to hear Brad is trying to get out from under the
> > >> > Mat again. I can't imagine what the reserve must be, but
> > >> > if it's even half his investment, it'll be a tough sell.
> > >> > not because it isn't worth it or doesn't deserve it...
> > >> > but simply 'cuz even AMCers don't see it's significance.
> > >> > One of 42 built and one of two still existing (I have
> > >> > photos of the other- it checks out).
> > >> >
> > >> > John W Rosa
> > >> > http://www.JavelinAMX.com
> > >> > My AMCs:
> > >> > 1973 AMC Hornet X 360/Auto
> > >> > 1973 AMC Javelin AMX Pierre Cardin 360/Auto/Go
> > >> > 1974 AMC Javelin AMX 401/Auto/Go
> > >> > 1977 AMC Gremlin 258/3spd (parts)
> > >> > 1979 AMC Spirit DL 258/4spd (parts)
> > >> >
> > >> > 1981 AMC Spirit DL 258/Auto
> > >> >
> > >> >
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