I don't believe this would work. I've been reading a fuel injection concepts book and what you describe sounds somewhat close to the early 1930's Mechanical fuel injection systems and they didn't work anything. There's too many variables that the computer helps to control, and too many little things that the carburetor system does through many magic little moving parts to make everything work. Pick up a fuel injection book at the library and start reading through everything. Un-mystify all of those "damn sensors" and become familiar with what each one does and you'll find that fuel-injection is really simpler than you would think... I still have alot to learn before I start reprogramming them, but that is my goal so that I can start intalling EFI's on my boat, wagoneer, etc. I have already retrofitted a Chevy motor with a TBI setup, but on that one I could use the factory PROM without any fuel curve mods so it was pretty easy... Later, Jeremy http://www.jeepinrocks.com or http://www.iowa4wd.com -----Original Message----- From: Ian Cudmore [mailto:yahootoo@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:21 PM To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: fuel injection ok guys i have an idea, and i'm not so sure how easy it would be to set up but... here goes, gotta be easier than dealying with all the computer crap baisicaly what i want to do is take the intake manifold off of a 4.0 and set it up without a computer as i understand it with fuel injection you have baisicaly a pressureised loop coming from and to the fuel tank, along with this is another line that comes up to the injectors, in between the two is a reastatcontrolled by the computer and as the throttle is increased <among all sorts of other variables.. .but this is the important one> the reastat closes a valve off and forces the fuel to move on to the injectors, wich are open. now, if one was to remove the computer, and reastat, and replace them with a manualy controlled one, that you could hook up to say... a throttle cable it could do the same job, only without having to mess with all those damn sensors and wires and crap, and most importantly at a much lower cost. what do you guys think is this totaly out to lunch or with some refinement, great fun? _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004